this is how the brightest creationist reason

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Man is not a direct descendant from chimpanzee but both has a common ancestor we both branched off the evolutionary tree long long time ago it is better to say we are cousins,have you visited the zoo b4 Oh darwin! i saw a chimp walking on 2 legs like a toddler.

@gotizatas: God hates in.cest. Ho did you know that inc.est is bad if not from you religious experience. it is that experience that you are now hinging your argument,the very truth that you are denying.Hausa's till date are still marrying their counsins. is that wha you call in.cest?

Didnt Cain and Abel have sex with their mothers and sisters?

@kay17: can you please read Gen6:1-4.

there is a lot of i.ncest in the bible
Job, Noah, Adam and Eve etc
And not just humans , animals too.
God loves i.ncest
And not only that, he is also very particular about putting sperms inside your brother's wife this is where The God Will Strike You with lightening phrase originated from.

^^^terrible heresy. Give specific references.

No use discussing God, since he does not exist in the eye of the reason, logic and the law

^^^you are making a big mistake. Take for instance,electricity is basically transmitted through a conductor according to the present knowledge. But it will be unreasonable today to think that electricity could be transmitted without cables. Your limited knowlège of spiritual matters today will be stupidity tommorow. Read the first atomic theory(Dalton's) and the latest theory about atoms. So what is common sence? What is reason? What is the law? None of them is universal and constant so dont base you life on them alone.

folaski, I am very sorry to say but your understanding of basic science is highly limited. Please do not attempt to use scientific examples to support your faith.

Incest in not only bad morally (and you bible did not even condemn it, but encourages it instead), it is bad biologically and socially. Incest means sex within close family members such as father/daughter, mother/son, bother\sister, uncle/niece and aunt/nephew. Sex between cousins is not usually regarded as incest, especially after second cousins.

Incest is very harmful to the group as it degrades the gene and often leads to deformity within the group that practices it. That is why animal breeders go to great length to avoid inbreeding, as it will degrade the quality of the offsprings.

You electricity example shows you do not understand what electricit is. Electricity is simply the movement of electrons and electrons can move through any medium, be it solid, liquid or gas. it conducts through air, that is why lightnings hit the ground.

^^^electricity can be conducted through many mediums that i know very well but i wonder why power companies of today even in america are stil running cables. You dont seem to read in between the lines. Am using a mobile phone so its a little tedious to be too explicit. Your knowlege of God is very small and lopesided. It was God that made the rules that you are quoting. Read the bible with open mind of a sincere researcher.

The bible supports i.ncest, whats ur defence?

Kay 17:

The bible supports i.ncest, whats your defence?

Substantiate this allegation.

Kay 17:

No use discussing God, since he does not exist in the eye of the reason, logic and the law

on what basis does reason, logic and law exist ?

Monkey Science

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Uyi Iredia:

Substantiate this allegation.

If Adam and Eve were the first humans and they had several children among them Cain, who did Cain marry?
The account of Lot and his daughters is right there in the Bible check Genesis 19:31 to end.

Uyi Iredia:
Uyi Uyi
on what basis does reason, logic and law exist ?

They exist due to the need of human minds to form models. How does this lead to your God?

thehomer:

If Adam and Eve were the first humans and they had several children among them Cain, who did Cain marry?
The account of Lot and his daughters is right there in the Bible check Genesis 19:31 to end.

How does this prove that the Bible supports incest. The depiction of incest in the Bible does not necessarily make it supported by the Bible (or the God of the Bible)

thehomer:
They exist due to the need of human minds to form models. How does this lead to your God?

Explain your answer. It implies that the existence of reason, law and logic is dependent on human minds.

First, we would have to assume there is reality, that there is truth and the human mind is capable of grasping it. Reason breaks down, captures and conceptualises the truth, thus enabling one to further build on it (such as increase in knowledge).

While the law does not recognise the supernatural, since it concerns itself with the human society.

First, we would have to assume there is reality, that there is truth and the human mind is capable of grasping it. Reason breaks down, captures and conceptualises the truth, thus enabling one to further build on it (such as increase in knowledge).

While the law does not recognise the supernatural, since it concerns itself with the human society.

As to in.cest in the bible and biblical approval. The book had instructions to Adam, to populate the earth. Being aware that Adam, Eve and their kids were the only humans at that time. One can reasonably conclude that the writer of the bible had knowledge of this peculiar situation and consented to in.cest, since it was a NECESSITY to reproduce.

Uyi Iredia:

Explain your answer. It implies that the existence of reason, law and logic is dependent on human minds.

Reason and logic stem from the human capability for abstract thought and complex tool use. This is an ability that gives us our greatest evolutionary advantage over other species and is the reason why there are 7 billion humans spread across all the continents of the world including Antartica. It is an ability that is present in all the great apes only less well developed. It is a trait that has been strongly selected for throughout history. Modern humans outcompeted Neanderthals partially because of their superior tools. There is archeological evidence of asian tribes overwhelming others due to their superior agricultural techniques. Native Americans with stone age tools were almost wiped out when they ran into Europeans carrying rifles. Humans move into new territory, shoot all the wild animals, cut down the trees and take over.

Now when you say Law, I assume that you mean morality ethics. Many assume wrongly that this comes from religion but the truth is that evolution again is responsible. Human beings live in herds and cooperation among members is a major survival tactic. This is where empathy and altruism (as well as tribalism/racism and the "us versus them" mentality) come from. A tribe that doesn't cooperate among itself will soon be wiped out by another tribe that does. Human beings take care of their sick and injured because one day they might be sick and need somone to take care of them.

Evolutionary psychology is an extremely interesting field.

^^^

What is holding the sky from falling on the earth?

Who designed the plants to grow and feed themselves?

Why does the river not flow out of its banks except in a rare situation?

Why do the birds only understand eachother?

Why do you give birth, grow old, die?

What happened to the "cell" they claim developed into humans? how did that cell come into being?

The big slam abi wetin dem dey call am, how did it occur? who did the banging? it did by itself or what?

Why does the oxygen we breathe in not too much or too little for humans?


  While providing answers, do not forget to include the person, being, thing responsible too.

^^^ mr honoric

the problem with the design approach is ad infinitum. Complexity is explained away as an effect of a cause. But it comes to a point that as a result of the complexity of the cause it would require a higher cause. Such as God/Designer. Its attributes become too complex and thus requires a higher cause. So a simpler cause is the best solution without a designer capability.

This 'simple' cause offers an extension to everything that presently exists. As it wouldnt need to be designed or create something from nothing, it wouldnt be a creator.

Natural law is subsequently set by the interaction and compatibility of the characters of matter + energy

honeric01:

^^^

What is holding the sky from falling on the earth?

Who designed the plants to grow and feed themselves?

Why does the river not flow out of its banks except in a rare situation?

Why does the birds only understand eachother?

Why do you give birth, grow old, die?

What happened to the "cell" they claim developed into humans? how did that cell come into being?

The big slam abi wetin dem dey call am, how did it occur? who did the banging? it did by itself or what?

Why does the oxygen we breathe in not too much or too little for humans?


While providing answers, do not forget to include the person, being, thing responsible too.

Guy, you need to learn how to frame your questions properly to keep from sounding rètarded. For instance, don't ask "why do rivers never overflow their banks except for when they do?" That is an inherently nonsense question. Also what do you mean by "what is holding the sky from falling on the earth?" What is the sky? Do you think it's a blue canopy dangling from a rope or what?

Ask me sensible questions and I'll be happy to debate you. That stuff up there is not sensible.

honeric01:

^^^
What is holding the sky from falling on the earth?

The same thing that stops the sun from falling into the earth from it's position in the sky.

honeric01:

^^^
Why does the oxygen we breathe in not too much or too little for humans?

So other animals can have oxygen.

honeric01:

^^^

Why does the birds only understand eachother?

You're not a bird, so you can't understand or speak bird.

honeric01:

^^^
Why do you give birth, grow old, die?

Because we can't die, grow old and then give birth.

Kay 17:

^^^ mr honoric

the problem with the design approach is ad infinitum. Complexity is explained away as an effect of a cause. But it comes to a point that as a result of the complexity of the cause it would require a higher cause. Such as God/Designer. Its attributes become too complex and thus requires a higher cause. So a simpler cause is the best solution without a designer capability.

This 'simple' cause offers an extension to everything that presently exists. As it wouldnt need to be designed or create something from nothing, it wouldnt be a creator.

Natural law is subsequently set by the interaction and compatibility of the characters of matter + energy

 So can you break down whatever you're trying to explain here? i mean in simple terms?

Evil Brain:

Guy, you need to learn how to frame your questions properly to keep from sounding rètarded. For instance, don't ask "why do rivers never overflow their banks except for when they do?" That is an inherently nonsense question. Also what do you mean by "what is holding the sky from falling on the earth?" What is the sky? Do you think it's a blue canopy dangling from a rope or what?

Ask me sensible questions and I'll be happy to debate you. That stuff up there is not sensible.  

I can see you're only looking for excuses because you know you're likely going to contradict and implicate yourself if you dare give answers to these questions.

Martian:

The same thing that stops the sun from falling into the earth from it's position in the sky.

So other animals can have oxygen.

you are yet to answer anything, you only added another question to my list of questions, what's stopping the sun and the sky from falling on the earth? (the stars included)

Let me even make it a bit simple, why hasn't the current apes evolve to humans since scientists or the revolutionists claim that humans are descendants of apes?

We still have apes right? why do these apes give birth to apes and not humans? why even give birth at all if they can evolve to humans?

honeric01:

Let me even make it a bit simple, why hasn't the current apes evolve to humans since scientists or the revolutionists claim that humans are descendants of apes?

We still have apes right? why do these apes give birth to apes and not humans? why even give birth at all if they can evolve to humans?

Of course Apes can evolve into humans!!! Haven't you seen planet of the apes? The source is a book older than the bible.

Martian:

Of course Apes can evolve into humans!!! Haven't you seen planet of the apes? The source is a book older than the bible.

, were you born by a woman through the mixture of sperm and eggs or you simply evolved from an ape?

honeric01:

you are yet to answer anything, you only added another question to my list of questions, what's stopping the sun and the sky from falling on the earth? (the stars included)

The same thing that keeps galaxies that are attached to the firmament from falling into the Alantic ocean.

honeric01:

^^^

 The big slam abi wetin dem dey call am, how did it occur? who did the banging? it did by itself or what?

It just went BAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!

Martian:

Of course Apes can evolve into humans!!! Haven't you seen planet of the apes? The source is a book older than the bible.

, were you born by a woman through the mixture of sperm and eggs or you simply evolved from an ape?