coogar:

same as man city!
toure has been at man city for how many seasons now - where has he taken city to in europe? they have been beaten bluish blackish by nearly all the teams they have faced in europe. they have finished at the bottom of the group about twice....

vidal is the truth!
this is exactly what we need in our midfield, a raging bulldog who would kill off the opposition while scoring or assisting via his killer passes.

[img]http://164.177.157.12/img/blog/2014%2f7%2fVidal2Header.jpg[/img]

see how busy this player gets in the middle of the pack. rooney wouldn't even need to track back again.

[img]http://164.177.157.12/img/blog/2014%2f7%2fVidal2.jpg[/img]

he has scored 28 goals in serie a. the highest of any midfielder since he moved to italy. who does this guy remind you of? he tackles more than tiote & scores as many as ramsey.....this is the new keane!

van gaal would be stüpid not to pay £50m for this lad.

I was comparing the leagues not the clubs. Man City has been poor in Europe but they have lost 17 matches in the EPL in that period but in that period Juve has lost only 7 matches including an unbeaten season. only in a fecal league( or at least a putrid one) can this Juve side go unbeaten
for a whole season.

P.S if Vidal is fit and his knee is fine he would be a great addition and i would be happy with it but don't go making it like he is the 2nd coming of Jack Bauer.
ExtraP.S Coogar was it not you that said with fellaini and anderson and cleverley we would win the league this season and that it would be foolhardy for us to spend any money on midfielders?

coogar:

same as man city!
toure has been at man city for how many seasons now - where has he taken city to in europe? they have been beaten bluish blackish by nearly all the teams they have faced in europe. they have finished at the bottom of the group about twice....

vidal is the truth!
this is exactly what we need in our midfield, a raging bulldog who would kill off the opposition while scoring or assisting via his killer passes.

[img]http://164.177.157.12/img/blog/2014%2f7%2fVidal2Header.jpg[/img]

see how busy this player gets in the middle of the pack. rooney wouldn't even need to track back again.

[img]http://164.177.157.12/img/blog/2014%2f7%2fVidal2.jpg[/img]

he has scored 28 goals in serie a. the highest of any midfielder since he moved to italy. who does this guy remind you of? he tackles more than tiote & scores as many as ramsey.....this is the new keane!

van gaal would be stüpid not to pay £50m for this lad.

I SMH for man united's management. They can pay £30m for a 19 year old untested overrated English player, but can't go for the most complete midfielder in European football Vidal for just ordinary £47m.

StarBoard:
I believe Toure started at CB vs United in Rome.
Just asking.

Yep.Barca were forced into a defensive reshuffle as Alves and Abidal were suspended.Defence line up was Puyol at RB, Pique and Toure as CBs, Sylvinho at LB.

Debroslink:

I SMH for man united's management. They can pay £30m for a 19 year old untested overrated English player, but can't go for the most complete midfielder in European football Vidal for just ordinary £47m.

Its not the management and its not the money. The problem is the injured knee and Van Gaal's reluctance to trust it is ok. I also suspect Van Gaal intends to wait until Janaury for Strootman. I wouldn't mind Strootman and Vidal combo behind Mata, oh boi
That means Herrera,Cleverley and Fletcher would be the 2nd unit with Anderson and Fellaini being offloaded to Maritimo in Portugal

afrodoc:
I was comparing the leagues not the clubs. Man City has been poor in Europe but they have lost 17 matches in the EPL in that period but in that period Juve has lost only 7 matches including an unbeaten season. only in a fecal league( or at least a putrid one) can this Juve side go unbeaten
for a whole season.

nah!
you were comparing their european campaign! you made mention of how they usually struggle to make it to the last 16. city have fared worse in europe if we analyse based on the cost of their monster squad.

P.S if Vidal is fit and his knee is fine he would be a great addition and i would be happy with it but don't go making it like he is the 2nd coming of Jack Bauer.

fit or unfit - we should just sign him now that vermaelen has slipped to barcelona. not signing vidal would have a demoralising effect on our fans & perhaps the players. this is about making a statement that we can get the best talents if we want to.

ExtraP.S Coogar was it not you that said with fellaini and anderson and cleverley we would win the league this season and that it would be foolhardy for us to spend any money on midfielders?

we have proven in the past we don't need world class central midfielders to win the league. a substandard united midfield have won more league titles in the last 8 seasons than any other team in england - how did anderson & cleverley achieve that? chelsea with world class midfielders have only won 1 league title in 8 seasons.

06/07 - united
07/08 - united
08/09 - united
09/10 - chelsea
10/11 - united
11/12 - man city
12/13 - united
13/14 - man city

coogar:
[img]http://164.177.157.12/img/blog/2014%2f7%2fVidal2.jpg[/img]

From his stats, I hope he is not regressing?

Just saying.

chrisley024: From his stats, I hope he is not regressing?

Just saying.

difficult to say if he's regressing. the number of minutes played is unknown in those seasons. that might have affected his opta rating.

afrodoc:

Thats to show you the yeyerity of the league. How many matches has Juve lost in the league last 3 years? This same Juve team that struggles almost yearly to reach knock out stages of UCL.

And How many times has Yaya Toures City made this same knockout stage despite spending 10times more than Juve

Yaya Toure is overrated

This same Yaya and City midfield has been sodomised by everyone in the CL from Kroos, Schweini, Bender, Gundogan, Hamsik, Ghokhan Inler even Ajax babies and Eriksen took turns on him

raumdeuter: Yaya Toure is overrated

This same Yaya and City midfield has been sodomised by everyone in the CL from Kroos, Schweini, Bender, Gundogan, Hamsik, Ghokhan Inler even Ajax babies and Eriksen took turns on him

yaya toure or kroos?
who would you rather buy if you are a manager of madrid?

coogar:


yaya toure or kroos?
who would you rather buy if you are a manager of madrid?

Kroos anyday. even though I hate him for leaving.

In Madrid Yaya would be useless since he cant take Penalties and Freekicks. He wont be allowed to bomb forward senselessly

As a manager of Madrid, I would rather buy Chiek Tiote rather than Yaya at least I know what I'm getting instead of a jack of all trade master of none

raumdeuter:

Kroos anyday. even though I hate him for leaving.

In Madrid Yaya would be useless since he cant take Penalties and Freekicks. He wont be allowed to bomb forward senselessly

As a manager of Madrid, I would rather buy Chiek Tiote rather than Yaya at least I know what I'm getting instead of a jack of all trade master of none

someone check afrodoc & nihilist - i hope they haven't been placed on a suicide watch after reading this comment from dayo.

afrodoc:

Thats to show you the yeyerity of the league. How many matches has Juve lost in the league last 3 years? This same Juve team that struggles almost yearly to reach knock out stages of UCL.

that is what i stressed

raumdeuter:

Kroos anyday. even though I hate him for leaving.

In Madrid Yaya would be useless since he cant take Penalties and Freekicks. He wont be allowed to bomb forward senselessly

As a manager of Madrid, I would rather buy Chiek Tiote rather than Yaya at least I know what I'm getting instead of a jack of all trade master of none

If you were asked to pen down the top 4 CMfs in Europe at the moment, what will your list look like??

raumdeuter:

And How many times has Yaya Toures City made this same knockout stage despite spending 10times more than Juve

bros i hope u can read and understand english.
i never talked about whether each player had done enough individually to lead their teams to success.....i don't believe one player can achieve that solo. no where did i ascribe juve's inability to do well in europe to vidal. i was illustrating the weakness of the serie A if an average team like Juve can be going almost undefeated yearly

raumdeuter: Yaya Toure is overrated
This same Yaya and City midfield has been sodomised by everyone in the CL from Kroos, Schweini, Bender, Gundogan, Hamsik, Ghokhan Inler even Ajax babies and Eriksen took turns on him

This.
Trust dayokanu to add his own dimension.

coogar:

who wrote this?
https://www.nairaland.com/871307/official-manchester-united-fan-thread/838#25320519


you are a bloody liar.
if i earn a pesewa for each time slippery lies have fallen outta your mouth, i would be twice as rich as bill gates.




sturridge played as a centre forward each time he started. injury kept sturridge out of the squad each time he didn't start. stop lying to us here.

after telling us the forward line is fluid, you are now saying suarez was the centre forward. if the front 3 is fluid, how does that make suarez the composite centre forward?

elampiro, lying to the public since 1856

* I want to believe you are not an illiterate. Can you see that was a conditional statement? 'When Suarez, Coutinho and Sterling became regulars'. I never said Strurridge didn't play with them.

* Suarez was a CF. It became fluid only when one was played out wide, and it didn't happen many times.



You are just a tortoise. Just give up the argument. You lost already. Lie lie Coogar- Suarez was a winger. Lol. Liar from conception.



Ukwu!!!

afrodoc:

bros i hope u can read and understand english.
i never talked about whether each player had done enough individually to lead their teams to success.....i don't believe one player can achieve that solo. no where did i ascribe juve's inability to do well in europe to vidal. i was illustrating the weakness of the serie A if an average team like Juve can be going almost undefeated yearly

Arsenal went unbeaten in the EPL and still failed in Europe; does that show the yeyerity of the EPL

Madrid(2000) and Liverpool(2005) finished 5th in their leagues yet won the CL, Add AC Milan to it; Does that show the yeyerity of the CL

chrisley024: From his stats, I hope he is not regressing?

Just saying.

very good point.
his tackles,interceptions,shots, and passes per game have all dropped every year for the last 3 years.
hmmmmm coogar hope you know a world knee specialist?

raumdeuter:

Arsenal went unbeaten in the EPL and still failed in Europe; does that show the yeyerity of the EPL

An English club (Chelsea) made it to the semi finals of the CL that year. When last have we seen an Italian team in the semis?

Nihilist:

Oh really?

Post the full squawka comparison matrix including the overall scores


Vidal's overall performance rating from Sqwaka(The website Coogar referenced above) is 540

Toure's is 1380


Abegiiiiiiii

You won an away match by 10-0.

This wayo chart they have been presenting since...... Hahahahaha. See as Yaya school Vidal.


Yaya toure 1380, vidal 530.
Case closed.

Ukwu!!!

raumdeuter:

Arsenal went unbeaten in the EPL and still failed in Europe; does that show the yeyerity of the EPL

Madrid(2000) and Liverpool(2005) finished 5th in their leagues yet won the CL, Add AC Milan to it; Does that show the yeyerity of the CL.

LOL.
u r choosing isolated cases. It is a trend for not only Juve but practically all the other Italian club sides. Juve have been consistently poor in the CL despite dominating every year in the Serie A. When u add the fact that the other clubs in the Serie A are also performing poorly in Europe every year you have to conclude that the league is yeyerious At least in a similarly yeye league like the Bundesliga the one team there Bayern actually does well in Europe. In Serie A however both masters and slaves get pummeled in Europe. That sir is the epitome of yeyeness

Dadehmola:

An English club (Chelsea) made it to the semi finals of the CL that year. When last have we seen an Italian team in the semis?

Thank you very much. Every year the dominant Italian teams in the local league get maltreated in Europe and the smller teams also get misused. Dayo hates English league and everything English so much......watch him try to argue that the Serie A is better than the EPL.

raumdeuter:

Arsenal went unbeaten in the EPL and still failed in Europe; does that show the yeyerity of the EPL

An English club (Chelsea) made it to the semi finals of the ucl that year. When last have we seen an Italian team in the semis ? How have Italian teams fared in the UCL in the last 4years?

raumdeuter:
Madrid(2000) and Liverpool(2005) finished 5th in their leagues yet won the CL, Add AC Milan to it; Does that show the yeyerity of the CL

How is this relevant to the topic at hand?

If Yaya Toure were a European or a South American he would be earning £300k per week for his contribution to Man City.

afrodoc:

Thank you very much. Every year the dominant Italian teams in the local league get maltreated in Europe and the smller teams also get misused. Dayo hates English league and everything English so much......watch him try to argue that the Serie A is better than the EPL.

The season Juve went unbeaten, AC Milan an Italian team made the CL quarters before losing to Barca.

So uncle tell us another story

afrodoc:

LOL.
u r choosing isolated cases. It is a trend for not only Juve but practically all the other Italian club sides. Juve have been consistently poor in the CL despite dominating every year in the Serie A. When u add the fact that the other clubs in the Serie A are also performing poorly in Europe every year you have to conclude that the league is yeyerious At least in a similarly yeye league like the Bundesliga the one team there Bayern actually does well in Europe. In Serie A however both masters and slaves get pummeled in Europe. That sir is the epitome of yeyeness

Last season

CL semi 1 Bundesliga team, 1 EPL team
CL quarters 2 Bundesliga team 2 EPL teams
CL 2nd round 4 Bundesliga teams 4 EPl teams

2 seasons ago
CL final 2 Bundesliga teams 0 EPL teams

Uncle pls tell us another story

afrodoc:

Thank you very much. Every year the dominant Italian teams in the local league get maltreated in Europe and the smller teams also get misused. Dayo hates English league and everything English so much......watch him try to argue that the Serie A is better than the EPL.

The fact that Vidal has created a buzz by bossing things in a yeye league, is a fact that can't be thrown outta the window just like that!!

PS... I'd still love to have him at oldtrafford tho...

Omo anyhow anyhow i just want our team improved. i wanted Modric 2 seasons ago he went to Madrid, i wanted Thiago he went to Bayern, i wanted Strootman or Gundogan their bad luck heads got them injured, i wanted Kroos he went to Madrid, wanted Fabregas he went to Chelsea.
All these while the devil presented the white elephant project called Fellaini to United.
God please give us this day. If Vidal comes i hope he proves his doubters wrong

Dadehmola:

An English club (Chelsea) made it to the semi finals of the ucl that year. When last have we seen an Italian team in the semis ? How have Italian teams fared in the UCL in the last 4years?

The season Juve went unbeaten an Italian team made the CL quarters

How is this relevant to the topic at hand?

Shows theres little relevance between CL and League performance

The season City was winningand dominating EPL, it was geting rapeed in the CL

elampiro:
* I want to believe you are not an illiterate. Can you see that was a conditional statement? 'When Suarez, Coutinho and Sterling became regulars'. I never said Strurridge didn't play with them.

you are the stark illiterate.....
what is the meaning of coutinho & sterling becoming regular? when have they ever been irregular? are you out of your mind?

* Suarez was a CF. It became fluid only when one was played out wide, and it didn't happen many times.

so when suarez was the CF, where was sturridge? a midfielder? opta said sturrudge appeared 26 times & played 26 times as a CF. look at the image i posted & stop lying to us.

You are just a tortoise. Just give up the argument. You lost already. Lie lie Coogar- Suarez was a winger. Lol. Liar from conception.

Ukwu!!!

i have shown opta formation that placed suarez wide with sturridge in the centre. those were some of their big games last season - against spurs & arsenal.

at least show us one evidence that sturridge was a winger like you lied to us. high concentration of lies must have coagulated the semën that made you. that was how you lied last night too in the face of clear stats that lampard was better than scholes.

i don't even know whether to call you a pathological liar or a raving stark illiterate. stats you cannot read. cognitive reasoning - you lack it. from one side of your lips, it's a fluid 3. from another side, suarez was the CF.

almost 3 years of posting on NL & your deductive reasoning continues to decline. you are now worse than when you first emerged from the wilderness called facebook sports page. i suggest you go back there again for a comprehensive brain reset.