debosky:


It appears you've either forgotten or were typing bollocks up there - RDM's instincts/natural tactical leaning is to be attacking, not 'preventing any opportunity of giving anything away'. To claim otherwise is unadulterated nonsense.



Wenger applied the same tactical astuteness over 6 years ago in 2005 to win the FA cup and in 2006 till we narrowly lost out to Barca due to a red card. As always, luck plays a big part in winning cups and that's what RDM had.

coogar:

this is the rubbish chelsea fans keep deluding themselves about - he packed the bus to make the scoreline respectable! in spite of rdm's 9-0-1 formation, barcelona still had enough chances to have won the first leg 4-0 @ stamford bridge but for cesc's idiocy in front of goal! had chelsea nullified barca's threat like guus hiddink did in 2009 @ the bridge, i would have saluted rdm's tactics - which wasn't in case. in 2009, barca had only one shot on target(iniesta's goal) throughout 90 mins!

Fact Is i dont argue Chelsea Issues wiv Chelsea dafts - U got nofin special to contribute other than Sentimental arse tinted views. . .NEXT!

El Guapo:

Fact Is i dont argue Chelsea Issues wiv Chelsea dafts - U got nofin special to contribute other than Sentimental arse tinted views. . .NEXT!

akbabyfaze: Coogar,

A football analyst who truly knows his onions about his club & other clubs does not need to be abusive. Αℓℓ you need is to make your points clear & articulate supported with valid facts.

Go & study how recognized soccer analysts make their position known...for example take a cue frm "Zonalmarking
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NEXT...

lalaboi: Mikel left twitter because of the abuse he got lol. . Serves him right, he's had it coming . . . . . .

diggz: @ Coogar, sharrrraaap e Joor! Carry ur yeye talk to ur Manure thread. Afta yesterday game,Starboard and ruddie are still waiting for u to come up wit anoda essay in defence of Ur mavericks

High_Chief: I have been following this "Torres" debate on here for sometime now and I think those Oscar goals should settle it already

**Oscar didn't need the cream de la cream midfielders in the football world to score those two goals, especially that last one against a team like Juventus.
**If Torres was the one in Oscar's position, I really doubt he would have attempted those shots. Most times he wants to be fed like a baby.
**Oscar opened up and created the space, so I expect Torres to also create goal chances and shoot when necessary instead of waiting for through-passes

Lastly, I hope more Chelsea midfielders start scoring goals, cos Torres has obviously refused to score while blaming everybody for his goals drought.

****Thats my opinion and am entitled to it, so nobody should try shoving down his own opinion down my throat.***

High_Chief: I have been following this "Torres" debate on here for sometime now and I think those Oscar goals should settle it already

**Oscar didn't need the cream de la cream midfielders in the football world to score those two goals, especially that last one against a team like Juventus.
**If Torres was the one in Oscar's position, I really doubt he would have attempted those shots. Most times he wants to be fed like a baby.
**Oscar opened up and created the space, so I expect Torres to also create goal chances and shoot when necessary instead of waiting for through-passes

Lastly, I hope more Chelsea midfielders start scoring goals, cos Torres has obviously refused to score while blaming everybody for his goals drought.

****Thats my opinion and am entitled to it, so nobody should try shoving down his own opinion down my throat.***

High_Chief: I have been following this "Torres" debate on here for sometime now and I think those Oscar goals should settle it already

**Oscar didn't need the cream de la cream midfielders in the football world to score those two goals, especially that last one against a team like Juventus.
**If Torres was the one in Oscar's position, I really doubt he would have attempted those shots. Most times he wants to be fed like a baby.
**Oscar opened up and created the space, so I expect Torres to also create goal chances and shoot when necessary instead of waiting for through-passes

Lastly, I hope more Chelsea midfielders start scoring goals, cos Torres has obviously refused to score while blaming everybody for his goals drought.

****Thats my opinion and am entitled to it, so nobody should try shoving down his own opinion down my throat.***

High_Chief: I have been following this "Torres" debate on here for sometime now and I think those Oscar goals should settle it already

**Oscar didn't need the cream de la cream midfielders in the football world to score those two goals, especially that last one against a team like Juventus.
**If Torres was the one in Oscar's position, I really doubt he would have attempted those shots. Most times he wants to be fed like a baby.
**Oscar opened up and created the space, so I expect Torres to also create goal chances and shoot when necessary instead of waiting for through-passes

Lastly, I hope more Chelsea midfielders start scoring goals, cos Torres has obviously refused to score while blaming everybody for his goals drought.

****Thats my opinion and am entitled to it, so nobody should try shoving down his own opinion down my throat.***

nateevs: The revisionists are in the building. "RDM being a manager who doesn't give anything away" on the back of half a season's success - the nature of which still polarizes the views of many fans and pundits. Dudes are already tagging it "undisputed tactical achievement"


Like a fellow Chelsea fan says, RDM is holding back on showing some balls because now he has a job to lose as opposed to when he had one to win.

Ibime:
Guy, suck it up. I know it pains you. RDM is the most successful manager in the history of your club, not AVB.

Look at the bitter guy counting games as if he is looking forward to some sacking. When these eediots were showing their formations in July, they showed us formation with Lamps, Mikel as DM and CM and called it "a defensive formation". Now its not defensive enough for them. Some showed us formation with Mikel, Oscar, Marin, Hazard and Mata in the same midfield like they are playing fantasy manager. I told this nincompoop that this team is unbalanced and he even started arguing with Ritchboy that all these players fit into the team. Because Nateevs has been found to be an eediot (once again), it is convenient to lay blame at his pet hate RDM.

And how does one sell that to the players in training? "Hey Lamps and Mikel, this monday morning, we are going to be working on Luiz in central midfield cos you guys are too slow. And sorry Romeu, I know you've been waiting for your turn but you are too slow as well. Oh and Ramires, you cant pass the ball, so this morning, I am going to rip up the script and work on playing Luiz in midfield."

nateevs: You are going to burst your heart over your keyboard dude. By showing balls, RDM has to drop a 34 year old. I am sorry you don't like it. No top team in the PL plays with a 34 year old for 90mins in every single game.

Should he replace with Luiz, I don't know. It's an option. Would it work? I have no phucking idea. None of us knew Mikel could ever play as a DM.

nateevs:
I hope you know that in Brazil's last game, Menezes played Ramires in CM. You obviously know more and that's why you are a manager with a 6 figure salary. How does Menezes manage it and RDM can't?

Ibime:
2008 - Lampard should be dropped. He cannot play Scolari diamond formation. Scolari says Lampard was his best player. 20 goals and 19 assists follow.

2009 - Lampard should be dropped. He cannot play Ancelotti diamond formation. 27 goals and 20 assists follow

2010 - Lampard injured for four months. Came back and took Chelsea into title contention. 13 goals in half a season. Cant remember Nateevs excuse then, but Im sure he said Lampard should be dropped

2011 - Lampard should be dropped because he cant press high enough. Lampard rob Messi twice to set up Ramires. Lamps rob Jay Spearing to set up FA Cup final winning goal. The rest is history.

2012 - New invention. Lamps should be dropped. "Double pivot" and bla bla bla. Mikel needs a quicker partner.

coogar:

how many of these goals are from cheap penalty kicks/freekicks? lampard has scored 5 goals for club/country this season - only one of them is from open play! let's scratch that.....frank lampard has scored more from the penalty spot than any player in the entire chelsea history.....let's scratch that again.....frank lampard has scored from the penalty spot more than any player in the england national team! ibime, lampard's stats don't fool footie acolytes. if ramirez/mikel were also given the task of burying it from 12 yards, they would score aplenty!

Ibime:

Why dont you tell us?

188 goals for Chelsea. 188 42 penalties!!!



Lemme help you with another stat:

Frank Lampard has created 222 chances in the Premier League since 2009/10 season.

http://www.thechels.co.uk/2012-09-15-saturday-sixes/

How many has shekpe keeper converted?

debosky:
Of course it's clear RDM isn't in full control of transfers, but it is apparent that RDM doesn't rate Romeu as he's been sidelined, and if he really wanted a DM, Chelski willing to splash out for Oscar and Hazard would have got him one.

Ibime:

@ bolded,

Just leave it there!

Romeu is pretty much the same speed as Mikel although more aggressive. His time will come. Its a long season. Having cleared the decks in midfield, he is obviously part of the plan.

RDM does not even make requests on which players he wants. If he did, we would see at least one player that he requested. There is no such player in Chelsea squad that RDM requested so yes, RDM has 0% input. Even the Fellaini they are talking of for January is long-time Emenalo target.

Meanwhile, you failed to tell us who the real Wenger is - the Wenger of Manu Petit, Gilberto Silva and Vieira playing counterattacking turnovers, or the Wenger of Denilson as DM.

chic2pimp: I know Oscar had a good game last night but let stop with the delusion he kept Pirlo quiet.

Anyone who has actually watched either Juve's opening games of the season or Italy qualifier's would tell u that he has been a shadow of himself this season. Not taking anything away from Oscar's energetic performance though.

Still Gotta give him some Credit though -- One cant underrate Pirlo's Rustiness

nateevs: The revisionists are in the building. "RDM being a manager who doesn't give anything away" on the back of half a season's success - the nature of which still polarizes the views of many fans and pundits. Dudes are already tagging it "undisputed tactical achievement"


Like a fellow Chelsea fan says, RDM is holding back on showing some balls because now he has a job to lose as opposed to when he had one to win.


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The excitement we are getting from the likes of Hazard and Oscar should not take away the fact that our last 3 games have been 1 loss and 2 draws. It's very easy to slip into period of poor results.