Havilah93: choi, we should have ended united once and for all tonight.

I dont feel good about that return leg, more so, do away goals count? if yes that would be good for us

Babamide: After 90minutes against United at Old trafford, I came to the following conclusion:
1. The spirit of Champions is still with the team
2. Benitez is intelligent, he just doesn't want to succeed with chelsea
3. Uncle Frank needs to take a seat and let the boys play
4. Mikel is a must
5. Mazacar is still the best combo
6. Juan Mata is world's best
7. Cech needs to know he can be replaced
8. Torres must have a rare terminal disease we don't know about. And finally,
9. FA cup is our birthright

A-40:

No away goals! A winner must emerge! Either that or ET and penalties

Babamide: After 90minutes against United at Old trafford, I came to the following conclusion:
1. The spirit of Champions is still with the team
2. Benitez is intelligent, he just doesn't want to succeed with chelsea
3. Uncle Frank needs to take a seat and let the boys play
4. Mikel is a must
5. Mazacar is still the best combo
6. Juan Mata is world's best
7. Cech needs to know he can be replaced
8. Torres must have a rare terminal disease we don't know about. And finally,
9. FA cup is our birthright

Babamide: After 90minutes against United at Old trafford, I came to the following conclusion:
1. The spirit of Champions is still with the team
2.[s]Benitez is intelligent, he just doesn't want to succeed with chelsea[/s]
3. Uncle Frank needs to take a seat and let the boys play
4. Mikel is a must
5. Mazacar is still the best combo
6. Juan Mata is world's best
7. Cech needs to know he can be replaced
8. Torres must have a rare terminal disease we don't know about. And finally,
9. FA cup is our birthright

nateevs:

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No one's actually answered how we've manged to turn a striker who had 14 EPL goals before joining Chelsea into one who care barely get a shot on target.

Ibime:

Based on goals per minute Demba Ba is averaging a goal every two games which is in keeping with the kinda opposition he's playing, and still 7 times more efficient than shekpe keeper based on goals per minute.

Now no need for disingenuous questions because if Torres wasn't being mollycuddled to play the weakest opposition and still flopping whilst Demba Ba is reserved strictly for the toughest games, then Demba Bas return should be double.

Demba Ba - 4 goals in 700 minutes ie 1 goal every 180 against City, Manure, Swansea, West Brom etc - correct return for those kinda games.

Torres - 1 goal in 950 minutes against Reading, Steau Bucharest and Sparta Prague . . .and that goal was vs Brentford.

No comparison or point to be made

nateevs:
No one's actually answered how we've manged to turn a striker who had 14 EPL goals before joining Chelsea into one who care barely get a shot on target.

nateevs: No one's actually answered how we've manged to turn a striker who had 14 EPL goals before joining Chelsea into one who care barely get a shot on target.

nateevs:


I think you have taken my point out of context. My point was not about who of our 2 strikers has performed better. Rather it is about how Ba has not been anywhere near as prolific as he was with Newcastle, despite the fact that he is playing with better midfield players. Regardless of the the number of minutes he's played.

coogar: ibime has said nothing, he's just putting gloss over a sack of shyte!

fact remains the demba ba in the blue-short is a shadow of the one @ newcastle unless you function on a single-digit IQ. it has nothing to do with the manager, the system is the problem. benitez hasn't shackled demba or juan mata - the fact remains no system chelsea play favours their lead strikers. had torres started today, ibime would blame his lack of goals - not benitez's defensive tactics! what was defensive in what benitez did tonight? how come ba didn't score?

when torres does not score, he makes assists - he gets involved! ba on the other hand is useless once his name is not on the scoresheet! you can never remember ba's contribution in any game he doesn't score! he just runs around like he's intelligent whereas he's got nothing going for him other than hype. lukaku is a better striker than demba ba. torres is better than the 2 of them!

You could've atleast save this Chuckle for Easter - The Kids would Laugh at it!

coogar:

goals alone is not productivity..... creating goals is as important as scoring goals.

coogar:

superb cutback!

Ibime:

Demba Ba - 4 goals in 700 minutes ie 1 goal every 180 against City, Manure, Swansea, West Brom etc - correct return for those kinda games.

Torres - 1 goal in 950 minutes against Reading, Steau Bucharest and Sparta Prague . . .and that goal was vs Brentford.

coogar: ibime has said nothing, he's just putting gloss over a sack of shyte!

fact remains the demba ba in the blue-short is a shadow of the one @ newcastle unless you function on a single-digit IQ. it has nothing to do with the manager, the system is the problem. benitez hasn't shackled demba or juan mata - the fact remains no system chelsea play favours their lead strikers. had torres started today, ibime would blame his lack of goals - not benitez's defensive tactics! what was defensive in what benitez did tonight? how come ba didn't score?

when torres does not score, he makes assists - he gets involved! ba on the other hand is useless once his name is not on the scoresheet! you can never remember ba's contribution in any game he doesn't score! he just runs around like he's intelligent whereas he's got nothing going for him other than hype. lukaku is a better striker than demba ba. torres is better than the 2 of them!

debosky: ^^ What do you mean by 'directly' involved? Did he provide the assist or did he score?

4llerbuntu:
for a top striker? INSIGHTFUL
is saving the ball alone not productivity for a goalkeeper too?

That means there's been a shitload of crappy strikers in football, eg Ruud van Nistelrooy, Raul, Fat Ronaldo etc etc. wow. this is what iv been saying, no better striker than TH14

pretty sure everyone on the planet, bar you knows thats silly talk

i missed your take on this fact

lalaboi: We've seen countless times mister Torress looses the ball whilst we counter! I dont think we woulda scored the second goal if it wer Torress in attack, his pass would have either been too short or over hit, or would have taken the ball on a dribble rampage only to loose it.

I still wonder why Ninjas defend Torres

coogar:

this is why majority of the people think you are stupid on these pages...
a striker has copped 8 assists from open play and yet you criticize his football brain and his passing? demba has not copped any assist for chelsea since january. torres cops 1 key pass per game, demba ba has 0.6 key pass per game.........chelsea are better off with torres on the pitch than demba.

lalaboi:
Erm, last time i checked you was only one person, how you count as "majority" on these pages is beyond me.

8 assists in how many games? and how many goals? Unless I am missing something, we deserve more for 50mill. . go suck a Transversite's banana with your stoopid stats. key passes my foot. You probably dont watch half of chelsea games, you dont know what kind of pain fans derive from seeing Torress on the pitch except for his 1 out of 50chances scorings

lalaboi:
I still wonder why Ninjas defend Torres

debosky:
What makes me wonder more is that peeps would justify Ba's poor performances at Chelski just to spite Torres. If we all agree Torres is crap, why can't folk tell the truth about Ba's poor performances without bringing Torres into it to 'justify' how bad he has been?

coogar:

the rest probably don't have the balls to say it to your face but they tell me lalaboi is a retard!

coogar:

even in 100 PL games, a striker isn't meant to be copping 8 assists from open play - who is torres assisting? are you too stupid to realise those assists should have been his goals if the chelsea system is working effectively? your criticism of torres is daft and moronic. there's always an excuse for ba when he under-performs......when torres under-performs, he is the antichrist - responsible for all the ills in the world including the killing of twins in calabar.

that fat fool known as ibime also went on a diatribe that ba is ineffective because of rafa benitez's boring system. it's amusing these myth came after ba was found to be useless in a game he should be scoring. the theory in itself is a fallacy. chelsea are not worse or any better than the previous seasons. chelsea are boring? where is this myth coming from?

debosky:

What makes me wonder more is that peeps would justify Ba's poor performances at Chelski just to spite Torres. If we all agree Torres is crap, why can't folk tell the truth about Ba's poor performances without bringing Torres into it to 'justify' how bad he has been?

coogar:

the truth is bitter - these negroes would never admit ba has been a flop considering the hype surrounding his arrival. herbivores like dayo, ibime, bluediva and this goat known as lalaboi were expecting ba to come in and start scoring braces and hatricks for chelsea like he was doing for the barcodes!

jackbauersballs: I must say, I have to agree with Coogar on this one.

Even if Jesus came down to wear the number 9 shirt for us, he would never succeed with the kind of players we have.

It is IMPOSSIBLE to play a lone striker in a Winger-less system and expect him to bag them for fun.

Torres and Ba have been forced to play as False nine's very similar to Messi at Barca, unfortunately they both lack the movement of the great Argentine (Possibly because he is a converted winger?)

Agreed, Torres has been pants since he moved. But what excuse do we have for Ba?

lalaboi:
Odenna,

Ba at newcastle took penalties, Took Freekicks. . . He was the main guy in that department! obviously he would score more goals that way. At cheslea, he just the striker! only responsibilty to score goals like he did against highly Brom, and link up plays like he did against your team leading to the goals. . .Thats what FBS meant by Directly involved in the goals, you have to be the main assister in that case, we have seen Torres in numerous occassions such as that and the end result was either loosing the ball or doing a "cut back" or better still, being bullied off it.

lalaboi:
Let me guess, Your fake electronic followers on twitter?

Torres has underperformed for how long now? Has Ba had the luxury of having to play Chelsea main striker for10 consecutive games? Tell me Ba wouldnt smash the current number of goals Torres has coped if he had the luxury on the number of games. I refuse to judge Ba until he's played the same amount of games in a blue shirt than torress, i wont expect him to be consistent because he's been rotated.

Ba nor be machine. The only consistent nigga with bad performances here is Torres no lie. Just cos everyone jumps on Torres case when he plays badly doesnt mean we would do the same to Ba who's had better performances than Torress in 2013 alone. You want equal judgement, well i say until Ba gets that luxury, he will be treated differently

lalaboi:

Let me guess, Your fake electronic followers on twitter?