edicolove:

See you running from pillar to post trying to defend the indefensible after you s.hi.t for church use bible clean yans.h! I have already bookmarked this page. Ridiculing the name of Abiola like you are a saint. Like all the freedom fighters the world has ever seen were saints. Trying to explain away Abiola'a role in June 12.

Hear yourself "Note that the election was not free and fair because of Abiola, but because Nigerians decided to make a decision for themselves on that day. " So who or what inspired them to make that decision? Your primary 3 teacher will not be proud of you at all. You have let him/her down with your IQ of -21. Have you ever seen a struggle that didn't have someone as a symbol? You think Nigerians would have taking that election serious and turned out en masse if it was Umaro Dikko or Shonekan that contested?

You are not doing yourself any favours here. Grow up. It is very foolish to attack MKO in Nigeria even if you don't like him.

again . . ..

Kobojunkie:

Typical Nigerian .. . attack the messenger and not the message.

Sorry, but what happened June 12th happened because IBB annulled an election the people termed "freest and fairest". Note that the election was not free and fair because of Abiola, but because Nigerians decided to make a decision for themselves on that day.

Many of those who rioted in the North, and in the East, and the South West, did so, not because they were Abiola Sycophants but because they were mad at the Government for ruling against the right of the people to choose.

If you have a problem with what I typed above, provide evidence to counter it. Attacking me only goes to bolster my point, and show you are likely just another "I go regurgitate wetin dem feed me" Nigerian.

sammirano: @Poster, are you minding UNILAG kids who don't known anything as at the life of MKO but were unfortunate to hear bad stories regarding the philanthropist.

You mean this Philanthropist?

The story of Abiola’s life is a classic rags to riches story that could be a Hollywood film. He was born into poverty in a large family. His birth came after a series of failed pregnancies, still born children and infant deaths in his family. He eventually attended the famous Baptist Boys High School in his home town of Abeokuta, in Ogun State. Former President Olusegun Obasanjo is another alumnus of that school. Afterward he studied accountancy at the University of Glasgow in Scotland. He then worked with the multi-national pharmaceutical company Pfizer.[size=13pt] [b]However Abiola made his name and riches when he joined the telecommunications company International Telegraph and Telephone (ITT). Abiola eventually became the chairman of ITT and via series of cordial relations with key army officers, Abiola amassed so much wealth, influence and fame that he once boasted of being the richest African on Earth.

Two of Abiola’s closest military friends were then Minister of Communications Brigadier Murtala Muhammed and Lt-Col Ibrahim Babangida. Abiola met Babangida in 1974 when Abiola was selling radio systems to the military. Babangida was sent to evaluate the quality of devices being sold by Abiola. According to Babangida “From that time the relationship developed and he was always around”. Abiola also met Brigadier Muhammed after bravely confronting Muhammed over a series of debts owed to Abiola’s company by Muhammed’s Communications Ministry. The normally fearsome and ruthless Muhammed was impressed by Abiola’s courage and the two struck up a friendship. With Babangida and Muhammed eventually becoming Heads of State, Abiola exploited his relationship with them to secure extensive patronage via contracts with the government and became spectacularly rich in the process. His business empire grew massively as did his bank account balance, number of wives, concubines and children.[/b][/size]

http://maxsiollun./2008/06/02/what-if-abiola-had-become-president/

AWD: The poster has been shallow enuf to think every one in ex-UNILAG is yoruba.
Besides the ignorant kids running around and causing confusssion are a bunch of mindless, irrational and mis-oriented cross section of our modern day Nigerian BB & Brazilian hair youth.
They are conceptual and shallow in intelligence and reasoning. Else why should any intelligent knowledge seeking student be so troubled about a name change (not like i think the change of name is neccessary sef) whrn ther are more pressing concerns like standard of education, curiculum and facilities to riot about.

RABBISH OSHI

+10000

AWD: The poster has been shallow enuf to think every one in ex-UNILAG is yoruba.
Besides the ignorant kids running around and causing confusssion are a bunch of mindless, irrational and mis-oriented cross section of our modern day Nigerian BB & Brazilian hair youth.
They are conceptual and shallow in intelligence and reasoning. Else why should any intelligent knowledge seeking student be so troubled about a name change (not like i think the change of name is neccessary sef) whrn ther are more pressing concerns like standard of education, curiculum and facilities to riot about.

RABBISH OSHI

The poster did not mention the word "Yoruba"in his post. Reread.
The poster made the inference after realising that majority of the critics were resident in a particular section of the country.
The poster used a reference made by a popular Lagos based civil rights lawyer to draw his conclusions. Reference below.

Bamidele Aturu:

“The renaming itself is not the problem it is was a populist gesture. This must not been seen as a way to garner the sympathy of the people of the South West.

PapaBrowne:

The poster did not mention the word "Yoruba"in his post. Reread.
The poster made the inference after realising that majority of the critics were resident in a particular section of the country.
The poster used a reference made by a popular Lagos based civil rights lawyer to draw his conclusions. Reference below.

Bamidele Aturu:

+10000

All said and done, any intelligent person can see, the "strata" of people posting here ...
I have decided to "categorize" all the posts and everyone will surely "locate themselves" somewhere in-between, if they are honest to themselves!

1.) Those who hate Abiola as a person: These are people like Kobojunkie, who have a grouse against Abiola and see this as an opportunity to rubbish his legacy. They 'openly' advocate for the name change but indirectly in their hearts, they are trying to point out that "Abiola does not deserve it", using reverse thinking! They prod others to say what they themselves have in their heart! . These sort of people are actually very dangerous as you can never know what evil they will support next!

2.) Those who hate the Yorubas: This group of people know in their heart that the "re-branding" is totally stewpid but they would not say so. Instead, they are prodding "Yorubas" to say so or say something in the line of "Abiola's name is not fit and proper". Meanwhile, they "TWIST the argument" against the name change, to imply that Yorubas have no respect for Abiola's legacy ...and thus are "bad people"!
They are mostly Igbos (not all Igbos, mind you) that are still consumed by their hatred for Yorubas (for whatever reason) and you can see it from their post! There is nothing you can do about them....a lost cause!

3.)Those who wished but are never good enough to be called "Akokites": These group of people "secretly" see the "re-branding" of UNILAG as a way of "diminishing the legacy and Legend of the University". To them, it is "God don catch them"!. Its basically supporting wrong, out of jealousy. These group of people are the ones using the UNN or other "re-branded" university in their arguments. They just want to see the "swagger' of "an Akokite" removed! ....and what a better way than to rename the University? Not that they care a hoot about Abiola.

4.)Those who are products of the University: These sort of people are vehemently against the name change, not because they do not love or appreciate Abiola but because they feel that "only Academic Icons" should be named after academic institutions.
Moreso, these set of people also believe that the "Brand Unilag" has gone universal in terms of academic institutions and since it took about 50yrs to reach that enviable height, it should be left like that.
They also think that Abiola, being a "Political icon", should be named after "Political Edifices" like Aso Rock, Eagle Square, National Assembly at Abuja. Though we cannot fail to decipher the underlying fear of "diminished legacy/brand" that these group fears about their institution, should the name change persist. Current, rioting Unilag students also fall into this category. They love Abiola's legacy but would prefer that the legacy of Unilag be kept intact and separate.

5.)Poli-trick-cians looking for a Kill: These group of people fall into PDP (for) and other oppositions groups like ACN, CCNP, e.t.c. Jonathan as the arrow-head of PDP, thinks he can court the support of South Westerners with these move. He thinks doing what is in the interest of the "Abiola family" (Dont know how many of his children graduated,if any, from Unilag!), he can carry the Yoruba votes, when the time comes. How wrong can he be! The "opposition" on the other hand, are against it, mostly because they feel GEJ is threading on their "area of influence" and using it for political frog-jumping! To this group, its all Politics and they dont bait an eyelid for Abiola or the University's name

6.) Finally, the Abiola's family: These group are in support for selfish reasons. Who does not want to be associated with a good and established 'brand name"?...not to mention UNILAG! They dont care what it does to the school or the products/students of the University, they are only concerned about their own family name.
But instead of coming out openly about their own "self interest", when they saw the opposition to the name change, they went into "self-pity mode" and tried to "play the victim" by implying that the rejection was an indication that the "interest groups" (everyone against the name change) especially the South Westerners, do not love Abiola or do not appreciate his death! Thus we are not surprised that Kola Abiola said "Abiola died for nothing", when he saw the vehement opposition to the name change! Maybe he can tell us why he thinks changing the name of Unilag to Abiola University or University of Abiola is the best option to show gratitude to Abiola.
I guess he was holed up somewhere in Europe/West when "guys were facing IBB's bullets" in the streets of Lagos and elsewhere, just to ensure that Abiola's mandate was re-instated! The same people he is now insulting, paid the "ultimate price" for his father election victory, ..Kudirat also did same but not even he himself did that, rather he's always collected "oil contracts" from the military to assuage his loss!

All the arguments you have read or will read will fall into one of these "strata".
Anything else is just PRETENSE and playing the Ostrich!
We know ourselves now?

Lastpage!

BTW: before you post anything, PLEASE be honest enough to tell us "where you belong" in the stratification!

Guyman02: Oga Jona, abeg build something else and name it after the democracy icon MKO. UNILAG has become a unique brand that some of us who schooled in better schools still rever that name UNILAG. Its like the US Govt renaming the Masserchussets Institute of Technology (MIT) to George Bush Institute of Technology (GBIT) or jibiti.

You wish!

The question is not whether we Loved MKO or not but the fact that when we should be looking for ways to improve on our economy we are currentle de-branding things that still gives prestege to the Nation. Abiola deserves to be immortalised but there are other things like acknowledging him as 1.President 2. Renaming the abuja National Stadium after him (As he was prominent in sport) 3.Renaming the newly built international Airport in Lagos After him. 4. Building a new Health centre of International Standard in abuja an naming it after him. This is just a political undertone and a means to win the south with some form of gaining sentiment come 2015

Beaf: [size=20pt]...And so was MKO unloved and his name spat on![/size]

No! Its not that they don't love MKO, but they love their brandy (sorry, i mean) brand more.

daygee4u: The question is not whether we Loved MKO or not but the fact that when we should be looking for ways to improve on our economy we are currentle de-branding things that still gives prestege to the Nation. Abiola deserves to be immortalised but there are other things like acknowledging him as 1.President 2. Renaming the abuja National Stadium after him (As he was prominent in sport) 3.Renaming the newly built international Airport in Lagos After him. 4. Building a new Health centre of International Standard in abuja an naming it after him. This is just a political undertone and a means to win the south with some form of gaining sentiment come 2015

Don't try to run away from this. Yes, I agree. The question here is not whether or not people love or hate Abiola. That would be childish, excuse me, moronic, considering the vast majority here, and in Nigeria, never met or had a personal experience of the man.
So, the question here is more that of what value people place on the name MKO vs the name UNILAG. If the President had instead suggested LASPOTECH be renamed after MKO, there would probably have been less resistance. But this is UNILAG of all schools. Does the MKO name offer a value greater than what the school currently has for a name, that is the question.

Tropilo:

No! Its not that they don't love MKO, but they love their brandy (sorry, i mean) brand more.

Tropilo:

You wish!

+10000

Don't try to run away from this. Yes, I agree. The question here is not whether or not people love or hate Abiola. That would be childish, excuse me, moronic, considering the vast majority here, and in Nigeria, never met or had a personal experience of the man.
So, the question here is more that of what value people place on the name MKO vs the name UNILAG. If the President had instead suggested LASPOTECH be renamed after MKO, there would probably have been less resistance. But this is UNILAG of all schools. Does the MKO name offer a value greater than what the school currently has for a name, that is the question.

@the bolded

that is not true! nobody is placing the personality or likeness of MKO in this context! can't u see dat u hv a lot of ppl disagreeing with ur opinion!? stop meddling the personality of MKO with the present event cos it has nothing to do with it.

ifeci:
@the bolded

that is not true! nobody is placing the personality or likeness of MKO in this context! can't u see dat u hv a lot of ppl disagreeing with ur opinion!? stop meddling the personality of MKO with the present event cos it has nothing to do with it.

Sorry, I am not one who goes around looking to please people with my opinions.

I rather stand for what I know is right, no matter what. All I have said of the person, Abiola, is true to this point. If you find any false statements I have made and have irrefutable evidence to counter it, be my guest. I am open to learning the truth. If not, maybe you should take time to learn of the man rather than jump on the praise bandwagon.

What I said of the value of the name to the school is true. Before you rename a product, one of things most like to consider is the value the new name brings in. Those against the renaming are more than likely not convinced that the new name will bring more value to the school than the old name has to this point. It is not rocket science.

lastpage: All said and done, any intelligent person can see, the "strata" of people posting here ...
I have decided to "categorize" all the posts and everyone will surely "locate themselves" somewhere in-between, if they are honest to themselves!

1.) Those who hate Abiola as a person: These are people like Kobojunkie, who have a grouse against Abiola and see this as an opportunity to rubbish his legacy. They 'openly' advocate for the name change but indirectly in their hearts, they are trying to point out that "Abiola does not deserve it", using reverse thinking! They prod others to say what they themselves have in their heart! . These sort of people are actually very dangerous as you can never know what evil they will support next!

2.) Those who hate the Yorubas: This group of people know in their heart that the "re-branding" is totally stewpid but they would not say so. Instead, they are prodding "Yorubas" to say so or say something in the line of "Abiola's name is not fit and proper". Meanwhile, they "TWIST the argument" against the name change, to imply that Yorubas have no respect for Abiola's legacy ...and thus are "bad people"!
They are mostly Igbos (not all Igbos, mind you) that are still consumed by their hatred for Yorubas (for whatever reason) and you can see it from their post! There is nothing you can do about them....a lost cause!

3.)Those who wished. ....

4.)[b]Those who are products of the University:
5.)Poli-trick-cians looking for a Kill: These group of people fall into PDP (for) and other oppositions groups like ACN, CCNP, e.t.c
6.) Finally, the Abiola's family
All the arguments you have read or will read will fall into one of these "strata".
Anything else is just PRETENSE and playing the Ostrich!
We know ourselves now?

Lastpage!

BTW: before you post anything, PLEASE be honest enough to tell us "where you belong" in the stratification!

In your magnanimity and haste to brand others, you actually forgot to list your own group! Hope you won't mind if I help u out there wld u? Here goes;

7) The Proud Yoruba Self Acclaimed Intellectual Bigot; This sort of people are betwixt between openly criticizing the choice of a razz sounding Moshood Abiola University and hailing the honour accorded their supposed Hero so they vent their fury on GEJ and anyone that seems to be gloating in their paranoid minds. Deep down they know the man needs to be honoured but have received a sucker punch in having their crown jewel renamed after someone they believe is an "undeserving" hero but unfortunately are locked in too much grand delusion that they can't afford to belittle a "Hero" they once portrayed as the hero of heroes! Karma is a bit*c

Sorry, I am not one who goes around looking to please people with my opinions.

I rather stand for what I know is right, no matter what. All I have said of the person, Abiola, is true to this point. If you find any false statements I have made and have irrefutable evidence to counter it, be my guest. I am open to learning the truth. If not, maybe you should take time to learn of the man rather than jump on the praise bandwagon.

What I said of the value of the name to the school is true. Before you rename a product, one of things most like to consider is the value the new name brings in. Those against the renaming are more than likely not convinced that the new name will bring more value to the school than the old name has to this point. It is not rocket science.

I think you are having a misplaced knowledge here, Do you think we are talking abt products; like commodities? that's a faulty analogy. we are talking about a school that has built its legacy for over 50yrs and you wake up one morning and just change that! that's wot everybody is talking about and you are busy attaching it to the personality of MKO while believing in wot u choose to evn though its a wrong belief. dts being rigid & dts bad.

lastpage: All said and done, any intelligent person can see, the "strata" of people posting here ...
I have decided to "categorize" all the posts and everyone will surely "locate themselves" somewhere in-between, if they are honest to themselves!

1.) Those who hate Abiola as a person: These are people like Kobojunkie, who have a grouse against Abiola and see this as an opportunity to rubbish his legacy. They 'openly' advocate for the name change but indirectly in their hearts, they are trying to point out that "Abiola does not deserve it", using reverse thinking! They prod others to say what they themselves have in their heart! . These sort of people are actually very dangerous as you can never know what evil they will support next!

2.) Those who hate the Yorubas: This group of people know in their heart that the "re-branding" is totally stewpid but they would not say so. Instead, they are prodding "Yorubas" to say so or say something in the line of "Abiola's name is not fit and proper". Meanwhile, they "TWIST the argument" against the name change, to imply that Yorubas have no respect for Abiola's legacy ...and thus are "bad people"!
They are mostly Igbos (not all Igbos, mind you) that are still consumed by their hatred for Yorubas (for whatever reason) and you can see it from their post! There is nothing you can do about them....a lost cause!

3.)Those who wished but are never good enough to be called "Akokites": These group of people "secretly" see the "re-branding" of UNILAG as a way of "diminishing the legacy and Legend of the University". To them, it is "God don catch them"!. Its basically supporting wrong, out of jealousy. These group of people are the ones using the UNN or other "re-branded" university in their arguments. They just want to see the "swagger' of "an Akokite" removed! ....and what a better way than to rename the University? Not that they care a hoot about Abiola.

4.)Those who are products of the University: These sort of people are vehemently against the name change, not because they do not love or appreciate Abiola but because they feel that "only Academic Icons" should be named after academic institutions.
Moreso, these set of people also believe that the "Brand Unilag" has gone universal in terms of academic institutions and since it took about 50yrs to reach that enviable height, it should be left like that.
They also think that Abiola, being a "Political icon", should be named after "Political Edifices" like Aso Rock, Eagle Square, National Assembly at Abuja. Though we cannot fail to decipher the underlying fear of "diminished legacy/brand" that these group fears about their institution, should the name change persist. Current, rioting Unilag students also fall into this category. They love Abiola's legacy but would prefer that the legacy of Unilag be kept intact and separate.

5.)Poli-trick-cians looking for a Kill: These group of people fall into PDP (for) and other oppositions groups like ACN, CCNP, e.t.c. Jonathan as the arrow-head of PDP, thinks he can court the support of South Westerners with these move. He thinks doing what is in the interest of the "Abiola family" (Dont know how many of his children graduated,if any, from Unilag!), he can carry the Yoruba votes, when the time comes. How wrong can he be! The "opposition" on the other hand, are against it, mostly because they feel GEJ is threading on their "area of influence" and using it for political frog-jumping! To this group, its all Politics and they dont bait an eyelid for Abiola or the University's name

6.) Finally, the Abiola's family: These group are in support for selfish reasons. Who does not want to be associated with a good and established 'brand name"?...not to mention UNILAG! They dont care what it does to the school or the products/students of the University, they are only concerned about their own family name.
But instead of coming out openly about their own "self interest", when they saw the opposition to the name change, they went into "self-pity mode" and tried to "play the victim" by implying that the rejection was an indication that the "interest groups" (everyone against the name change) especially the South Westerners, do not love Abiola or do not appreciate his death! Thus we are not surprised that Kola Abiola said "Abiola died for nothing", when he saw the vehement opposition to the name change! Maybe he can tell us why he thinks changing the name of Unilag to Abiola University or University of Abiola is the best option to show gratitude to Abiola.
I guess he was holed up somewhere in Europe/West when "guys were facing IBB's bullets" in the streets of Lagos and elsewhere, just to ensure that Abiola's mandate was re-instated! The same people he is now insulting, paid the "ultimate price" for his father election victory, ..Kudirat also did same but not even he himself did that, rather he's always collected "oil contracts" from the military to assuage his loss!

All the arguments you have read or will read will fall into one of these "strata".
Anything else is just PRETENSE and playing the Ostrich!
We know ourselves now?

Lastpage!

BTW: before you post anything, PLEASE be honest enough to tell us "where you belong" in the stratification!

Thank you !!! These people are too bigotted

ifeci:

I think you are having a misplaced knowledge here, Do you think we are talking abt products; like commodities? that's a faulty analogy. we are talking about a school that has built its legacy for over 50yrs and you wake up one morning and just change that! that's wot everybody is talking about and you are busy attaching it to the personality of MKO while believing in wot u choose to evn though its a wrong belief. dts being rigid & dts bad.

Huh?

yorubaman, you can see how they are, very unstable. if i'm a yoruba, i'll go hang myself for reasons of coming from an unfortunate tribe. in any case, i still feel pity for the family and encourage them to bear with the situation as it can't change.

fortyfeet: yorubaman, you can see how they are, very unstable. if i'm a yoruba, i'll go hang myself for reasons of coming from an unfortunate tribe. in any case, i still feel pity for the family and encourage them to bear with the situation as it can't change.

hmmmmmm

fortyfeet: 6:23pm
yorubaman, you can see how they are, very unstable. if i'm a yoruba, i'll go hang myself for reasons of coming from an unfortunate tribe. in any case, i still feel pity for the family and encourage them to bear with the situation as it can't change.

you are already fortyfeet so u can just jump with ur head downwards; no need for a rope and stop being a bigot because dis is not a tribal issue!

Chai Igbos are having a fill day

lastpage: All said and done, any intelligent person can see, the "strata" of people posting here ...
All the arguments you have read or will read will fall into one of these "strata".
Anything else is just PRETENSE and playing the Ostrich!
We know ourselves now?

Lastpage!

BTW: before you post anything, PLEASE be honest enough to tell us "where you belong" in the stratification!

you're wrong with your categorization.

i'm not a unilag alumni and neither did i fail to enter- for the simple reason that i never applied there.

they didnt have the course i was interested in- namely archaeology.


many commenters are simply pointing out you dont change names all willy nilly after eating some lumpy eba or something.

na unilag student prepare am?

fortyfeet: yorubaman, you can see how they are, very unstable. if i'm a yoruba, i'll go hang myself for reasons of coming from an unfortunate tribe. in any case, i still feel pity for the family and encourage them to bear with the situation as it can't change.

its rather unfortunate u made such a statement. when sigidi wants to be embarrased,it clamours for a bath. and thats what u just demanded. to most who have presented their arguments,if u pay for something or fund it,are you saying you cant rename. that the south west have critised does not mean they hate abiola,they are being objective.

delvinmaya:

its rather unfortunate u made such a statement. when sigidi wants to be embarrased,it clamours for a bath. and thats what u just demanded. to most who have presented their arguments,if u pay for something or fund it,are you saying you cant rename. that the south west have critised does not mean they hate abiola,they are being objective.

alj harem: Chai Igbos are having a fill day

Why won't they? Can you blame them? Yorubas have thrown their own under the bus here and they aint doing themselves any favors here. This is not OBJ we are talking about. This is MKO. This issue was so sensitive, the whole country completely conceeded the presidency to them in 1999. Now they have just come out to say it was all meaningless. What a slap. What a statement. What a whole new meaning this gives to Nigeria.

Some people don't realise the political implication of what just happened. It will shock you to know how this will divide the SW in 2015. Fingers crossed!

ifeci:

I think you are having a misplaced knowledge here, Do you think we are talking abt products; like commodities? that's a faulty analogy. we are talking about a school that has built its legacy for over 50yrs and you wake up one morning and just change that! that's wot everybody is talking about and you are busy attaching it to the personality of MKO while believing in wot u choose to evn though its a wrong belief. dts being rigid & dts bad.

Really.

@lastpage
i belong to the Abiola's family because the spontaneous manner of opposition shows very bold and clear that all those struggle (1992) was for democracy only and not both democracy and love for Abiola.

hmmmmmmm.......

Now, what if the university had been renamed a 'fancy' name such as Grover Washington University, Jeff Libberman College, Florida Atlantic University etc would this protest have held at all Just thinking aloud.

ROCKSTAND1: Now, what if the university had been renamed a 'fancy' name such as Grover Washington University or Jeff Libberman College etc would this protest have held at all Just thinking aloud.

Ha ha......

@lastpage
i belong to the Abiola's family because the spontaneous manner of opposition shows very bold and clear that all those struggle (1992) was for democracy only and not both democracy and love for Abiola. "MKO is our man ooo" am sure some postors will not understand.