Shollypopz: @ Sexkillz: I wonder how John 3:13 gave u 3 layers of heaven.......till later sha, It seems Kandii and Slim are disciplining you wella

sexkillz: What did you win? Its up there in my blue fonts. Read those bible passages in your bible and rebut them. . .

Then can you call yourself a winner.

sexkillz: There are elements of truth in what you said here. The bible and the meanings of what is written in it has been twisted since the 1st century. It takes a while to understand the the bible. . . It took me years to understand the bible. . .

hornipipe: All google mehn can't crack my brain
The Bible doesn't promise "heaven"... speaking of the
"third heaven," where the Father's throne is [where
many religions think their dead loved ones are].
Jesus tells us that no man has ever ascended
there, except for Himself, who came from there in the
first place [John 3:13].
The Bible speaks of "death" as "sleeping" [John
11:11-14] -- dormant, dreamless sleep.
"...the dead know not any thing..." (Eccle.9:5).
No one goes to the "third heaven" where Jesus is... He
says so. We all go to the "grave" [sometimes
translated "hell"].
"...there is no knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave,
whither thou goest." (Eccle.9:10)
The Bible prophesys of two future "resurrections" in
which all who have ever lived and died shall "live
again."

sexkillz: The heavens where the most high resides is spiritual. The other 2 are physical. When Jesus was on earth, he said no one has been to that spiritual heaven except the one that came from there. . . Him.

sexkillz: When did i tell you John 3:13 spoke of 3 layers of heaven?

And did you bother to read what hornipipe has been pasting from Google, or do you just wanna win? Lol

read and understand dear, read and understand.

kandiikane:

I don't think you understand the bible. You are putting your own mind into it.

If you ask any bible believer, even pope, they will tell yóu there is hell.

If not, you are all confused. You talk of what is written but make it into your own.

sexkillz: How come they all missed this from Google? Lol

sexkillz: How come they all missed this from Google? Lol

Shollypopz:
Where did u get ur other two from....i worked with d only scripture passage u gave me

Genesis 1 vs 1. In the beginning, God created the heavens(with an "s" and the earth. Now ask yourself. Where was God when he created the heavens and the earth?

this is easy.

sexkillz: When Jesus died, where did he go to? Heaven or hell? When Lazarus died, where did he go to? Heaven or hell? When they were both resurrected where were they coming from?

That is the problem. People rely on religious leaders to tell them all, whereas, they twist the bible and feed to them.

I have shown you what they bible said. I QUOTED the bible. . .

sexkillz: Genesis 1 vs 1. In the beginning, God created the heavens(with an "s" and the earth. Now ask yourself. Where was God when he created the heavens and the earth?

this is easy.

kandiikane:

Do you see how your bible contradicts itself?

I can swear on my left shoe it said one prophet ascended to heaven in a chariot of fire.

Do you see the confusion of religion I talked of?

sexkillz: Genesis 1 vs 1. In the beginning, God created the heavens(with an "s" and the earth. Now ask yourself. Where was God when he created the heavens and the earth?

this is easy.

kandiikane:

You quoted nonsense. You said there is no hell.

Now, you are saying religious leaders are twisting the bible. Are you not twisting the bible to your own way of life?

You are all a bunch of confused people.

Again, I will ask, how is this different to the ancient religions?



Lol@him going to ' in the beginning'

If you are open-minded and read genesis carefully you will also see that the world was not newly made in the way it was written.

All part of the confusions of religion.

Shollypopz:
What genesis tells us is that at the beginning, the Spirit of God was moving on the surface of waters.
One, the story of creation cannot be taken literally...word for word. Secondly, there is the problem of translation. KJV says "God created the heaven"
....it didn't pluralize

Shollypopz: Even if it's "the heavens" that should be there...it doesnt mean cos we can say "the waters were flowing" doesnt mean there were two or more different bodies of water....it's just a matter of language

sexkillz: What does Genesis 1 vs 1 say? That is what i quoted.

sexkillz: Did you read where it says that the earth was without form and covered with water in vs 2?

sexkillz: Well, if you are gonna have a bible based discussion with me, quote from the bible.

sexkillz: What does Genesis 1 vs 1 say? That is what i quoted.

Shollypopz:
Stop being st*upid...C'mon!

Shollypopz:
Exactly, there was no prior heaven!!

sexkillz: Did you read where it says that the earth was without form and covered with water in vs 2?

sexkillz: How am i being stup1d? This is what the bible said. . . I did not make that up. I don't want to insult you. So pass up on that. I am an insult champion myself, but i don't think this thread calls for that.

What genesis tells us is that at the beginning, the Spirit of God was moving on the surface of waters.
One, the story of creation cannot be taken literally...word for word. Secondly, there is the problem of translation. KJV says "God created the heaven"
....it didn't pluralize
Even if it's "the heavens" that should be there...it doesnt mean cos we can say "the waters were flowing" doesnt mean there were two or more different bodies of water....it's just a matter of language

kandiikane:

Please! Why should I bother myself when you lack bible knowledge.



Explain what it's says.

You are simply confused.

I told you, contradictions will come up, why? Because the the bible is confusing and to say atheists are confused is silly when you don't even understand what you believe in.

sexkillz:
Yes. There was no prior heaven. . . Where the birds now fly. Vs 6 - 8 explains how that heaven was made.

Shollypopz:
You totally ignored what I said sexkillz...are u blind..can't u read??! Can u listen or should I say read carefully. You are just arguing blindly. Calm down! read my reply again and answer like someone that has sense. I answered based on d scripture u gave me.

sexkillz:
Yes. There was no prior heaven. . . Where the birds now fly. Vs 6 - 8 explains how that heaven was made.

VS 2: "Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters".
What I stated earlier, I'm just quoting where i got it from....

sexkillz: Genesis 1 vs 1 introduces creation. It says God created the heavens and the earth. Then from verse 2 explains the processes and that is why in verse 8 it explained how an earth that had no prior heaven came to have a heaven.

ogugua88: Sholly, I hope you read today lol.