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Re: Did The Catholic Church Give Us The Bible? by italo: 12:29pm On Sep 05, 2012 |
frosbel: There was an old saying , the catholic church 'canonised' the bible in Latin, contradicted it, disobeyed it, refused to have it translated from Latin into any other Language, prevented the masses from seeing it or owning a copy , hunted down those that dared to take them on, killed some, burnt not a few and tortured countless numbers. How about answering the simple questions put to you, liar? |
Re: Did The Catholic Church Give Us The Bible? by mkmyers45(m): 12:31pm On Sep 05, 2012 |
frosbel: There was an old saying , the catholic church 'canonised' the bible in Latin, contradicted it, disobeyed it, refused to have it translated from Latin into any other Language, prevented the masses from seeing it or owning a copy , hunted down those that dared to take them on, killed some, burnt not a few and tortured countless numbers. And you kind sir know nothing more than a conspiracy-mongering,hate-filled man who likes nothing better than opening threads and running up and down em Leave the CC alone...when you have something genuine then bring it up for discussion... Little wonder you abandoned your thread for long. Peace |
Re: Did The Catholic Church Give Us The Bible? by mkmyers45(m): 12:36pm On Sep 05, 2012 |
Oh well this not even the first time he is opening such threads: https://www.nairaland.com/730303/did-roman-catholic-church-give |
Re: Did The Catholic Church Give Us The Bible? by truthislight: 12:42pm On Sep 05, 2012 |
MacDaddy01: Frosbel and Truthislight can not answer the questions because they would expose thier lies against the catholic church. The catholic church might be brutal and oppressive but they cnonized the bible. CANONIZATION IS A BAIT THAT THEY DISH OUT TO YOU AND USE IT TO CLAIM OWNERSHIP. ASK THEM TO EXPLAIN WHAT THEY HAVE IN MIND WHEN THEY SAY CANONIZATION YOU WILL SEE THEM ADD SALT, PEPE/SPICES. I SAID THAT THEY ONLY PUT A STAMP ON WHAT WAS ALREADY IN EXISTANCE. SHOULD THAT NOT BE ENOUGH CREDIT FOR AN HONEST PERSON? NO. THEY WANT US TO BELIEF THE LIE THAT GOD'S WORD IS A GIFT TO US FROM THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, ONCE THEY SELL THIS LIE TO YOU THEN THEY WILL DESTROY YOUR FAITH. HOW CAN THEY CLAIM THAT THE BIBLE WAS THEIR OWN WHEN AS FAR BACK AS THE FIRST CENTURY THERE WAS CHRISTIANITY IN PLACES AS FAR AS ETHIOPIA IN AFRICA AND OTHER NATION/? WHAT WERE THIS CHRISTIANS USING TO STUDY/BUILD THEIR FAITH/ HOW WAS IT POSSIBLE TO DETECT THAT THERE WAS ALTERATIONS IN THE SCRIPTURES IF THERE WHERE NO OTHER BOOK OF THE SCRIPTURES? WHEN THE APOSTLE PAUL WENT TO THESSALONICA THE BROTHERS THERE WELCOMED HIM AND AKNOWLEDGE THAT THE WORDS FROM THE APOSTLES WERE THE WORDS OF GOD. IF THE BELIEVERS THEN ACCEPTED THE WORDS OF THE APOSTLES AS THE WORDS OF GOD THEN HOW DO YOU IMAGINE THEY WOULD HAVE KEPT THOSE WRITINGS? 1THESSALONINS 2;13 WOULD THEY HAVE TO WAIT TILL 300YEARS LATER TO BE GIVEN GODS WORD? NO |
Re: Did The Catholic Church Give Us The Bible? by Nobody: 12:46pm On Sep 05, 2012 |
mkmyers45: False doctrine is what stands between our salvation or perdition. To suggest that we sweep the dirt under the carpet is a subtle way of asking us to shut up and let this confusion continue. I say Nay !! Ask your Pope to start another inquisition ![]() |
Re: Did The Catholic Church Give Us The Bible? by PastorAIO: 12:47pm On Sep 05, 2012 |
Truthislight, Why don't you use the Book of Enoch to 'study/build your faith'? |
Re: Did The Catholic Church Give Us The Bible? by mkmyers45(m): 12:51pm On Sep 05, 2012 |
truthislight: No need to type in capital blocks...its offensive Let me ask you something: Who are those first century christians? How could first century christians have accessed books like esther? What of book of Enoch,Gospel of Thomas,Gospel of Jesus's history? I hope you know most biblical records were in letter form? And truthislight: So you agree that they did alter the bible yes? Thats cool then... Peace |
Re: Did The Catholic Church Give Us The Bible? by truthislight: 12:52pm On Sep 05, 2012 |
MacDaddy01: THE WORD "CANONIZATION" IS PREGNANT. DID YOU NOT SAY ARRANGE/NUMBERED? MacDaddy01: We all know that the bible/scriptures were not arranged or numbered originally. Who cannonized the bible, frosbel and truhtislight? |
Re: Did The Catholic Church Give Us The Bible? by mkmyers45(m): 12:53pm On Sep 05, 2012 |
frosbel: You wish i was an RC....You cannot undermine the historical importance of RC in the bible we have today can you? I asked you severally and i will ask again...Where are the original bible scrolls? |
Re: Did The Catholic Church Give Us The Bible? by italo: 12:54pm On Sep 05, 2012 |
frosbel: *Somebody's trying so hard to avoid the topic of discussion. Somebody's trying to run away from the questions put to him because they'll expose his lies. Somebody's doing the "DOCTRINAL DANCE"* Typical protestant. Typical Frosbel. Typical hypocrite. |
Re: Did The Catholic Church Give Us The Bible? by mkmyers45(m): 12:56pm On Sep 05, 2012 |
truthislight: Why dont you go ahead and do justice to the word? ![]() ![]() |
Re: Did The Catholic Church Give Us The Bible? by truthislight: 1:01pm On Sep 05, 2012 |
mkmyers45: TO YOU NO PROOF' BUT TO A NONPARTISANT READER WHO KNOWS? |
Re: Did The Catholic Church Give Us The Bible? by mkmyers45(m): 1:03pm On Sep 05, 2012 |
truthislight: Its very difficult to understand what you write....Can you re-phrase? |
Re: Did The Catholic Church Give Us The Bible? by truthislight: 1:05pm On Sep 05, 2012 |
frosbel: There was an old saying , the catholic church 'canonised' the bible in Latin, contradicted it, disobeyed it, refused to have it translated from Latin into any other Language, prevented the masses from seeing it or owning a copy , hunted down those that dared to take them on, killed some, burnt not a few and tortured countless numbers. THANKS BROOO |
Re: Did The Catholic Church Give Us The Bible? by Nobody: 1:05pm On Sep 05, 2012 |
@truthislight The other gospels like gospel of thomas,gospel of mary,gospel of marcion e.t.c has long being in existence. Why do you stick to the roman catholic canon?even the book of enoch,jubilees preceded the xtian faith yet they did not make it to the catholic canon why don't you go ahead to use it in your worship |
Re: Did The Catholic Church Give Us The Bible? by Nobody: 1:07pm On Sep 05, 2012 |
of course not. can you bring out something clean from something so unclean JOB 14 VS 4 ? |
Re: Did The Catholic Church Give Us The Bible? by truthislight: 1:09pm On Sep 05, 2012 |
italo: WHO IS THE LIAR HERE SELF? HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN YOUR HISTORY? WE JUST DONT WANT TO USE WIKI TO DEFEND THE OBVIOUSE AS YOU CAN SEE, THE BIBLE ON ITS OWN CONTAIN INTERNAL HAMONY THAT CAN DEFEND ITSELF. |
Re: Did The Catholic Church Give Us The Bible? by mkmyers45(m): 1:10pm On Sep 05, 2012 |
obadiah777: of course not. can you bring out something clean from something so unclean JOB 14 VS 4 ? Mr Buzugee how many bottles of shekpe today? ![]() ![]() |
Re: Did The Catholic Church Give Us The Bible? by mkmyers45(m): 1:10pm On Sep 05, 2012 |
truthislight: I dey laugh ![]() |
Re: Did The Catholic Church Give Us The Bible? by truthislight: 1:11pm On Sep 05, 2012 |
mkmyers45: HMMM! WANDERS SHALL NEVER END. I HAVE NOT SEEN YOU EXTEND PEACE TO SOMEONE BEFORE! |
Re: Did The Catholic Church Give Us The Bible? by truthislight: 1:15pm On Sep 05, 2012 |
Pastor AIO: Truthislight, Why don't you use the Book of Enoch to 'study/build your faith'? IS HE AN APOSTLE? |
Re: Did The Catholic Church Give Us The Bible? by Nobody: 1:17pm On Sep 05, 2012 |
frosbel: There was an old saying , the catholic church 'canonised' the bible in Latin, contradicted it, disobeyed it, refused to have it translated from Latin into any other Language, prevented the masses from seeing it or owning a copy , hunted down those that dared to take them on, killed some, burnt not a few and tortured countless numbers. When the RCC did not translate the bible why wasn't it done by the people you referred to as the "early christians". Even would you also say the apostles were also conspiring to hide the truth by failing to translate the scriptures. The fact remains that greek and latin were the main global languages in the world then and virtually everyone who can read and write were conversant with both languages. |
Re: Did The Catholic Church Give Us The Bible? by truthislight: 1:18pm On Sep 05, 2012 |
mkmyers45: those people you mention are they christ apostles? you just dont get it do you? |
Re: Did The Catholic Church Give Us The Bible? by mkmyers45(m): 1:19pm On Sep 05, 2012 |
truthislight: He was a prophet and he was holy and walked with God...one of the most holiest men in the bible so? So all bible books must have been written by apostle eh? |
Re: Did The Catholic Church Give Us The Bible? by mkmyers45(m): 1:19pm On Sep 05, 2012 |
truthislight: Wow....Someone has been stalking my posts ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Did The Catholic Church Give Us The Bible? by Nobody: 1:22pm On Sep 05, 2012 |
mkmyers45:I done gave up the shekpe. I am as clean as the board of health ![]() ![]() |
Re: Did The Catholic Church Give Us The Bible? by truthislight: 1:26pm On Sep 05, 2012 |
chukwudi44: @truthislight my friend, the NT scriptures are writtings of the apostles. very simple, or, cant you get this simple fact? |
Re: Did The Catholic Church Give Us The Bible? by truthislight: 1:28pm On Sep 05, 2012 |
obadiah777: of course not. can you bring out something clean from something so unclean JOB 14 VS 4 ? hahaha, good kwession 1 Like |
Re: Did The Catholic Church Give Us The Bible? by mkmyers45(m): 1:29pm On Sep 05, 2012 |
obadiah777: I done gave up the shekpe. I am as clean as the board of health Wow...You never fail to crack me up ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Did The Catholic Church Give Us The Bible? by truthislight: 1:30pm On Sep 05, 2012 |
mkmyers45: is obadiah777 buzugee ![]() but he is not doing badly though ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Did The Catholic Church Give Us The Bible? by Nobody: 1:32pm On Sep 05, 2012 |
mkmyers45:Its all biblical brethren. all biblical. scripture is of no private interpretation now. when christ kingdom is established on earth we will not need bibles anymore because the word will be innate in us again. the whole laws statutes and commandments will be put in our soul. its a beautiful thang brother ![]() ![]() |
Re: Did The Catholic Church Give Us The Bible? by truthislight: 1:33pm On Sep 05, 2012 |
chukwudi44: the common language in use in the first century ce was greek, and the original NT WAS WRITTEN IN GREEK. PEACE |
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