truthislight:

is obadiah777 buzugee

but he is not doing badly though

all praises due to Yahawah. I am but a mere lowly servant

truthislight:

the common language in use in the first century ce was greek, and the original NT WAS WRITTEN IN GREEK.
PEACE

But Latin was equally widespread

mkmyers45:

He was a prophet and he was holy and walked with God...one of the most holiest men in the bible so?

So all bible books must have been written by apostle eh?

YOU MISS THE POINT.

OT was already in existance/completed and with the jews befor christ and his apostles walked the earth.

christianity started with JESUS CHRIST AND TO HIS APOSTLES IN 1CE.

The NT is an exclussive of the apostles of christ QED.

and this was not difficult to know/identified their writings cus they were around to verify them.

truthislight:

YOU MISS THE POINT.

OT was already in existance/completed and with the jews before christ and his apostles walked the earth.

christianity started with JESUS CHRIST AND TO HIS APOSTLES IN 1CE.

The NT is an exclussive of the apostles of christ QED.

and this was not difficult to know/identified their writings cus they were around to verify them.

Wrong...Parts like the Torah were already established but they was nothing called the old testament (many books in it now were either unknown or absent) because the new testament was yet to be written...

Peace

truthislight:

the common language in use in the first century ce was greek, and the original NT WAS WRITTEN IN GREEK.
PEACE

You just proved you know absolutely nothing about the socio-political setting of the early church.please go and study before comming here to spew rubish.

Latin and greek were widespread and were more or less generally spoken throughout the world.It would be ridiculous to say the catholic church were hiding the scriptures by keeping them in these languages.don't forget even the apostles did not translate

truthislight:

YOU MISS THE POINT.

OT was already in existance/completed and with the jews befor christ and his apostles walked the earth.

christianity started with JESUS CHRIST AND TO HIS APOSTLES IN 1CE.

The NT is an exclussive of the apostles of christ QED.

and this was not difficult to know/identified their writings cus they were around to verify them.

So how do you know that the books of "Mark" and "Luke" were written by Mark and Luke, since the names of the authors are nowhere mentioned in those gospels?

Answer: the Catholic Church told you so.

And mind you, if you use the writings of Paul, Mark and Luke, who were not among the 12, why don't you use the gospel of Barnabas.

And if you use the writings of Paul, Mark and Luke, who were not among the 12, why don't you use the gospel of Barnabas?

mkmyers45:

Wrong...Parts like the Torah were already established but they was nothing called the old testament (many books in it now were either unknown or absent) because the new testament was yet to be written...

Peace

ERROR

the records of the genaelogy by tribes was in display in there temple in Jerusalem and that was a possible souce of that record in matthew and luke gospel, when the temple was distroyed in 70 ce by the Roman they also destroyed this record, but again the scriptures had already been copied and the christians that escapt earlier by obeying jesus commands and arears that christianity had reached also had copies. coupled with the facts that their were proselyte jews living outside of jerusalem.

jesus christ also quoted from the psalms.

the apostles also quoted from the psalms and other books contain in the OT.

OT was already in existance by 1ce.

truthislight:

SORRY MATE.

YOU HAVE THE BIBLE, DO THAT ON YOUR OWN, IF YOU CANT THEN, SO BE IT.
PEACE

i have the bible quite alright, thats why am telling you that all the doctrines of the catholic church emanated from the bible. But you seem not to believe it. So, am asking again... Which of the catholic doctrine did you say did not emanate from the bible?.

chukwudi44:

You just proved you know absolutely nothing about the socio-political setting of the early church.please go and study before comming here to spew rubish.

Latin and greek were widespread and were more or less generally spoken throughout the world.It would be ridiculous to say the catholic church were hiding the scriptures by keeping them in these languages.don't forget even the apostles did not translate

friend it is you that needs to go get the facts.

NT WAS WRITTEN IN GREEK.

ANOTHER NAME FOR NT IS CHRISTIAN GREEK SCRIPTURES QED.

italo: And if you use the writings of Paul, Mark and Luke, who were not among the 12, why don't you use the gospel of Barnabas?

Answer?

The catholic church makes the rules lol.

The new testament is just one big JOKE

For someone to have the balls and say God handed it "down" to people who then made copies of of copies for us is the silliest thing I'll proll ever hear on Nairaland.

The text goes on to say the originals have been LOST :O, how then can we trust what we have now?. Im damn right sure I dont wana worship a god that can't ensure his word is eternal.


I suggest everyone should search Professor Bart Ehrman and learn about the new testament

italo:

So how do you know that the books of "Mark" and "Luke" were written by Mark and Luke, since the names of the authors are nowhere mentioned in those gospels?

Answer: the Catholic Church told you so.

MY FRIEND, AM NOT HERE SAYING THAT ALL 100% OF WHAT RCC HAD DONE ARE BAD.

THERE IS NO WAY THAT THEY WOULD NOT HAVE DONE SOMETHING GOOD.

IF YOU SAY THEY DID THAT I AM NOT HERE TO ARGUE ON THAT.

HOWEVER, THE CHRISTIANS THAT RECEIVED THAT WRITING WILL HAVE KNOWN THE WRITER.

truthislight:

ERROR

the records of the genaelogy by tribes was in display in there temple in Jerusalem and that was a possible souce of that record in matthew and luke gospel, when the temple was distroyed in 70 ce by the Roman they also destroyed this record, but again the scriptures had already been copied and the christians that escapt earlier by obeying jesus commands and arears that christianity had reached also had copies. coupled with the facts that their were proselyte jews living outside of jerusalem.

jesus christ also quoted from the psalms.

the apostles also quoted from the psalms and other books contain in the OT.

OT was already in existance by 1ce.

*FACE PALM*

It seems you dont read but just jump to comment...

Did i say that parts of the OT did not exist? For you to say that the present OT existed by 1ce is a joke...

Where is the book of Jashar? 2 samuel 1:18 and ordered that the men of Judah be taught this lament of the bow (it is written in the Book of Jashar) and Joshua 10:13 So the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, till the nation avenged itself on its enemies, as it is written in the Book of Jashar. The sun stopped in the middle of the sky and delayed going down about a full day.

Where is the book of the war of the Lord? Numbers 21:14 Therefore it is said in the Book of the Wars of the LORD, “Waheb in Suphah, and the valleys of the Arnon,

I can go on and on about other Non-Canonized Old Testament Scripture so please don't go there...

The books of the present old testament was never canonised by the time of the
apostles.even the apostles themselves quoted books outside the present OT canon.The book of jude quotes the books of enoch and assumption of moses.There is still a mystery as the source of the quotation in the book of mattew "he shall be called a nazerene". Even the murder of the prophet zechariah was not covered in the present canon

truthislight:

friend it is you that needs to go get the facts.

NT WAS WRITTEN IN GREEK.

ANOTHER NAME FOR NT IS CHRISTIAN GREEK SCRIPTURES QED.

Greater parts of the NT were written in Aramic so?

[quote]HOW CAN THEY CLAIM THAT THE BIBLE WAS THEIR OWN WHEN AS FAR BACK AS THE FIRST CENTURY THERE WAS CHRISTIANITY IN PLACES AS FAR AS ETHIOPIA IN AFRICA AND OTHER NATION/?

WHAT WERE THIS CHRISTIANS USING TO STUDY/BUILD THEIR FAITH/HOW CAN THEY CLAIM THAT THE BIBLE WAS THEIR OWN WHEN AS FAR BACK AS THE FIRST CENTURY THERE WAS CHRISTIANITY IN PLACES AS FAR AS ETHIOPIA IN AFRICA AND OTHER NATION/?

WHAT WERE THIS CHRISTIANS USING TO STUDY/BUILD THEIR FAITH//[quote]
These Ethopian you are talking about, are the not Catholics, as at the middle ages, most Ethopian christians are Catholics... Even though their priestly attire and some mode of worship might be different from RCC, they still recognise the leadership of the pope and their doctrine is like 99% same with the RCC.

italo: And mind you, if you use the writings of Paul, Mark and Luke, who were not among the 12, why don't you use the gospel of Barnabas.

COME UP WITH SOMETHING BETTER.

IF YOU REJECT PAUL THEN NT IS FINISHED.

DO YOU WANT TO REJECT PAUL NOW?

WHY NOT READ THE BOOK OF ACTS OF THE APOSTLES AND GET THE FULL DETAIL,

ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE ACCOUNT (MARK/LUKE) OF THE LIFE OF CHRIST WAS WRONG? (HISTORY)

GO FIND OUT THOSE THAT DID THE TEACHING IN THE NT, PETER, JAMES,JOHN.

LUKE SAID HE INVESTIGATED ALL THINGS THOROUGHLY.


IMAGINE THE LENGHT YOU WILL GO TO BRING DOWN THE BIBLE.
LOL.

YOU ARE DOING WHAT YOU GUYS DO BEST.

EVEN LUKE WAS A TRAVELING COMPANION OF PAUL, HE ALSO WROTE THE HISTORY OF THE ACCOUNT IN ACTS.

THAT BARUCH WROTE THE ACCOUNT/HISTORY OF JEREMIAH DID NOT QUALIFIED HIM TO HAVE HIS OWN BOOK. BUT WHAT HE COPIED WAS THE WORDS OF JEREMIAH,JUST LIKE LUKE IN THE BOOK OF ACTS. DOES THAT MEAN THAT THEY WERE INSPIRED TO WRITE LIKE DID PETER, JAMES AND JOHN?

IF YOU COOL DOWN AND GO THROUGH THE BOOK OF ACTS YOU WILL KNOW WHO IS WHO AND WHO

mkmyers45:

Greater parts of the NT were written in Aramic so?

No he is right.with the exception of mattew earlier written in aramaic,all other NT books were written in greek.

But the fact remains that the apostles did not translate it into another language because greek was generally spoken during their time.likewise the early catholics also left it in latin and greek because this two languages were generally spoken throughout the world

truthislight:

MY FRIEND, AM NOT HERE SAYING THAT ALL 100% OF WHAT RCC HAD DONE ARE BAD.

THERE IS NO WAY THAT THEY WOULD NOT HAVE DONE SOMETHING GOOD.

IF YOU SAY THEY DID THAT I AM NOT HERE TO ARGUE ON THAT.

HOWEVER, THE CHRISTIANS THAT RECEIVED THAT WRITING WILL HAVE KNOWN THE WRITER.

hmmm... Small small you will start confessing... Tell me which church that has kept a 100% legacy. Humans err. To me, chapter closed.

truthislight:

COME UP WITH SOMETHING BETTER.

IF YOU REJECT PAUL THEN NT IS FINISHED.

DO YOU WANT TO REJECT PAUL NOW?

WHY NOT READ THE BOOK OF ACTS OF THE APOSTLES AND GET THE FULL DETAIL,

ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE ACCOUNT (MARK/LUKE) OF THE LIFE OF CHRIST WAS WRONG? (HISTORY)

GO FIND OUT THOSE THAT DID THE TEACHING IN THE NT, PETER, JAMES,JOHN.

LUKE SAID HE INVESTIGATED ALL THINGS THOROUGHLY.


IMAGINE THE LENGHT YOU WILL GO TO BRING DOWN THE BIBLE.
LOL.

YOU ARE DOING WHAT YOU GUYS DO BEST.

EVEN LUKE WAS A TRAVELING COMPANION OF PAUL, HE ALSO WROTE THE HISTORY OF THE ACCOUNT IN ACTS.

THAT BARUCH WROTE THE ACCOUNT/HISTORY OF JEREMIAH DID NOT QUALIFIED HIM TO HAVE HIS OWN BOOK. BUT WHAT HE COPIED WAS THE WORDS OF JEREMIAH,JUST LIKE LUKE IN THE BOOK OF ACTS. DOES THAT MEAN THAT THEY WERE INSPIRED TO WRITE LIKE DID PETER, JAMES AND JOHN?

IF YOU COOL DOWN AND GO THROUGH THE BOOK OF ACTS YOU WILL KNOW WHO IS WHO AND WHO

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE APOCRYPHA ? DO YOU READ IT ? BARUCH HAS A BOOK IN THE APOCRYPHA AS DO SIRACH, MACCABEES, SUSANNA, ESDRAS ETC. THIS IS TOTALLY UNRELATED TO THE TOPIC. JUST WANT TO FIND OUT YOUR OPINION ON THE APOCRYPHA

truthislight:

COME UP WITH SOMETHING BETTER.

IF YOU REJECT PAUL THEN NT IS FINISHED.

DO YOU WANT TO REJECT PAUL NOW?

WHY NOT READ THE BOOK OF ACTS OF THE APOSTLES AND GET THE FULL DETAIL,

ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE ACCOUNT (MARK/LUKE) OF THE LIFE OF CHRIST WAS WRONG? (HISTORY)

GO FIND OUT THOSE THAT DID THE TEACHING IN THE NT, PETER, JAMES,JOHN.

LUKE SAID HE INVESTIGATED ALL THINGS THOROUGHLY.


IMAGINE THE LENGHT YOU WILL GO TO BRING DOWN THE BIBLE.
LOL.

YOU ARE DOING WHAT YOU GUYS DO BEST.

EVEN LUKE WAS A TRAVELING COMPANION OF PAUL, HE ALSO WROTE THE HISTORY OF THE ACCOUNT IN ACTS.

THAT BARUCH WROTE THE ACCOUNT/HISTORY OF JEREMIAH DID NOT QUALIFIED HIM TO HAVE HIS OWN BOOK. BUT WHAT HE COPIED WAS THE WORDS OF JEREMIAH,JUST LIKE LUKE IN THE BOOK OF ACTS. DOES THAT MEAN THAT THEY WERE INSPIRED TO WRITE LIKE DID PETER, JAMES AND JOHN?

IF YOU COOL DOWN AND GO THROUGH THE BOOK OF ACTS YOU WILL KNOW WHO IS WHO AND WHO

How do we know about paul ?

Ans-because acts told us about him

Who wrote the book of acts?

Ans-luke wrote the book

How did you know it was luke who wrote it

Ans-because the catholic church told us

obadiah777: WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE APOCRYPHA ? DO YOU READ IT ? BARUCH HAS A BOOK IN THE APOCRYPHA AS DO SIRACH, MACCABEES, SUSANNA, ESDRAS ETC. THIS IS TOTALLY UNRELATED TO THE TOPIC. JUST WANT TO FIND OUT YOUR OPINION ON THE APOCRYPHA

GUY, EVEN IF YOU ASK MKMYERS45 TO WRITE A BOOK THERE WILL BE SOMETHING GOOD IN IT.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT INSPIRED SCRIPTURES HERE THAT THE THREAD RUNS FROM GENESIS TO REVELATION WITHOUT CONTRADICTIONS.

THOSE DONT FOLLOW WITH ALL THEIR CONTRADICTIONS.

YOU CAN SEE THE DANGER THAT CATHOLICS STAND FOR ON THIS THREAD, WITH SOME OF THE QUESTIONS YOU WILL KNOW WHY THEY ARE VERY GOOD IN MAKING ATHEIST.

I HAVE TO RUN ALONG NOW, I WILL ATTEND TO THE THREAD LATTER.
PEACE ALL.

truthislight: I HAVE TO RUN ALONG NOW, I WILL ATTEND TO THE THREAD LATTER.
PEACE ALL.

ARE YOU IN BRITAIN ? THEY SPEAK LIKE THAT

truthislight:

GUY, EVEN IF YOU ASK MKMYERS45 TO WRITE A BOOK THERE WILL BE SOMETHING GOOD IN IT.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT INSPIRED SCRIPTURES HERE THAT THE THREAD RUNS FROM GENESIS TO REVELATION WITHOUT CONTRADICTIONS.

THOSE DONT FOLLOW WITH ALL THEIR CONTRADICTIONS.

YOU CAN SEE THE DANGER THAT CATHOLICS STAND FOR ON THIS THREAD, WITH SOME OF THE QUESTIONS YOU WILL KNOW WHY THEY ARE VERY GOOD IN MAKING ATHEIST.

How do we a scriptural writing was inspired? Every organisation has a positive and negative history associated with it.Even the pentecostals barely 100 yrs old has also committed atrocities in it's short time of existence let alone an organisation which has been existing for almost 2000 yrs.

Don't forget that virtually all the kings of isreal and judah were evil with the exception of say david,solomon,josiah and josephat all the other kings sinned grieviosly against God yet it did not change the fact that they were God's chosen race

Rich4god:
i have the bible quite alright, thats why am telling you that all the doctrines of the catholic church emanated from the bible. But you seem not to believe it. So, am asking again... Which of the catholic doctrine did you say did not emanate from the bible?.

Happy Birthday Man

obadiah777: ARE YOU IN BRITAIN ? THEY SPEAK LIKE THAT

frosbel:

ABI I LIE ?

obadiah777: ABI I LIE ?

You sef, wetin you dey find for isreal? Noahs ark?

mkmyers45:

Happy Birthday Man

Thanks my man... May God continue to bless you. Glory to Jesus.