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Re: Obasanjo Cautions Achebe & Awolowo’s Loyalists Against Civil War Comments by asha80(m): 2:04pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
Kslib:my friend check the guys former posts and tell me if you think the guy is igbo.don't just jump into thread and spew thrash.can't you detect sarcasm if you see one? 1 Like |
Re: Obasanjo Cautions Achebe & Awolowo’s Loyalists Against Civil War Comments by anthony86(m): 2:10pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
another tribal war thread. rubbish una no dey tire |
Re: Obasanjo Cautions Achebe & Awolowo’s Loyalists Against Civil War Comments by Nobody: 2:13pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
If the issue of the civil war is not properly addressed then we would always have topics like this in future. Our past leaders av failed to address critical issues and pretend it never happened I think its time to face reality bring all aggrieved party together and look for a way forward. 1 Like |
Re: Obasanjo Cautions Achebe & Awolowo’s Loyalists Against Civil War Comments by Awoofawo(m): 2:14pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
c.fours: I'm sure there is not medicine for your crazzy, so dey go do your craze rhetorically whim in middle of Yaba market... |
Re: Obasanjo Cautions Achebe & Awolowo’s Loyalists Against Civil War Comments by CyberG: 2:16pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
Double Post |
Re: Obasanjo Cautions Achebe & Awolowo’s Loyalists Against Civil War Comments by Nobody: 2:17pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
c.fours: I like your sarcasm 1 Like |
Re: Obasanjo Cautions Achebe & Awolowo’s Loyalists Against Civil War Comments by PHIPEX(m): 2:18pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
Why is OBJ himself raising this issue again, are there no better things to discuss by a political party than Chinua Achebe's book? If he is interested in allowing the sleeping dog lie then this his current debate and advice is completely unnecessary or is he interested in heating the polity again? This is my personal opinion. |
Re: Obasanjo Cautions Achebe & Awolowo’s Loyalists Against Civil War Comments by Dede1(m): 2:18pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
One of the most idiotic aspects of the speech was the silly attempt to compare WWII with Britain-Nigeria\Biafra civil war. In WWII the battles were fought by independent countries and when the war ended, the combatants went back to their countries to rebuild and re-establish as they wished without little or no hindrance from opposing combatants. However in the case of Nigeria\Biafra, the combatants remained in the same country and the so-called victors made sure vanquish never saw the rays of Sun again. Yet this goofy old fellow wants the Biafrans to forget. What a lapper. 7 Likes |
Re: Obasanjo Cautions Achebe & Awolowo’s Loyalists Against Civil War Comments by Kslib(m): 2:19pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
asha 80: my friend check the guys former posts and tell me if you think the guy is igbo.don't just jump into thread and spew thrash.can't you detect sarcasm if you see one?What's my business with his/her former post.. I replied based on his/her post on this thread.. Ok,even if it was sacarsm,he/she got 3likes from people who didn't think it was sacarsm(FIGURE THAT OUT),so my post remains valid till eternity!!! 2 Likes |
Re: Obasanjo Cautions Achebe & Awolowo’s Loyalists Against Civil War Comments by VirginFinder: 2:19pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
asha 80: my friend check the guys former posts and tell me if you think the guy is igbo.don't just jump into thread and spew thrash.can't you detect sarcasm if you see one? Don't mind him. He is not bright at all! He must be a young (small) boy. |
Re: Obasanjo Cautions Achebe & Awolowo’s Loyalists Against Civil War Comments by aribisala0(m): 2:30pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
chosen04: We should forget about niGERia jets bombing civilians in the markets, hospitals, schools etc and just move and pretend that it never happened because the sad event happened some 43 years ago?........TRULY, I CAN NOW UNDERSTAND WHY JESUS WEPT.No you should not forget.But you can either find a way to move on or start another war.If we decide to revisit the history there are many versions and there will never be agreement of whose version is more accurate. War is not a football game and Ojukwu must have known the consequences of his declaration ; defeat was ALWAYS going to be devastating. We all know what led to it but was his option the solution ? We can argue that till Ojukwu resurrects but if you go to war you cannot then turn around and say the enemy played dirty.That is naive when you are fighting for your existence NOTHING is dirty. LESSON: Don't go to war unless you will win. Well what determined the outcome and that Nigeria remained together then will determine again ; Foreign Powers like the UK and The US NOT Nigeria's might. Did Ojukwu check with them before going to war? All round his endeavour was naive and always doomed and he like others on the Nigerian side must share responsibility for the needless deaths of thousands. Now the war is over and the some people won't let go. Well no point shouting from the rooftops start another war but be better prepared this time 11 Likes |
Re: Obasanjo Cautions Achebe & Awolowo’s Loyalists Against Civil War Comments by asha80(m): 2:34pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
Kslib:you are not really bright you know.someone from another ethnic group makes a sarcarstic post about igbos with intent for people to make fun at igbos while reading his post as shown by the 3 likes you said you still say your post which you were attacking him for 'implying that igbos are special'is still valid?are you a kid?are your anaylitical skills that low?no wonder they say educational system in the country has gone to the dogs. 4 Likes |
Re: Obasanjo Cautions Achebe & Awolowo’s Loyalists Against Civil War Comments by gerald09(m): 2:37pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
Wow! See desperation! PDP has to kiss obj's ass just to c if dem fit win 2015. After the man walkout on them. PDP obj is a very smart man. The mistake u guys made was to allow Nigerians know what it feels to really be free. Obj will hav to subject himself to a lot to help una secure dat sit or una change PDP to sometin else. |
Re: Obasanjo Cautions Achebe & Awolowo’s Loyalists Against Civil War Comments by Reference(m): 2:55pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
Yeah, yeah. But did the Nigerian government do what the allies led by the United States did in Europe in the aftermath of the second world war and uptil today, no. They rather did what the axis powers led by the Soviets did. And where are the Soviets today. If OBJ thinks he knows world history, some of us feast on it. Let him know that the primary driver of the second world war in europe was the malicious treaty of Versailles the terms of which sought to grind germany into the ground but only succeeded in stoking anti-european, nationalistic passions. Let him read hard and know that it cost 40million lives for the victors to know how to handle their so-called victory. Did they repeat the mistake in Japan in 1946, no. Nigeria hasn't learnt anything. |
Re: Obasanjo Cautions Achebe & Awolowo’s Loyalists Against Civil War Comments by Kslib(m): 3:01pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
asha 80: you are not really bright you know.someone from another ethnic group makes a sarcarstic post about igbos with intent for people to make fun at igbos while reading his post as shown by the 3 likes you said you still say your post which you were attacking him for 'implying that igbos are special'is still valid?are you a kid?are your anaylitical skills that low?no wonder they say educational system in the country has gone to the dogs.Are you plain stuupid or what?? If you didnt check his profile to see his other posts,would you have known he was been sacarstic? So i should go on checking peoples profile before i reply. I understand sacarsm when i see one,but atleast he should have left a clue just like other people normally do.. I said my post remains valid cos the for-biafra/n igbos clearly agree with him.. Why cant you just understand something for once,yes,he was been sacarstic but they still agree with him and my message is for them and remains valid..haba .. |
Re: Obasanjo Cautions Achebe & Awolowo’s Loyalists Against Civil War Comments by Reference(m): 3:03pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
aribisala0: Hmm, I just laugh. Everyone is still paying for the unfinished business of 1966-7. You think you have a country. Just look around you and think again. You think it is a black thing. Ask John Kuffor who's the daddy today. I laugh. 2 Likes |
Re: Obasanjo Cautions Achebe & Awolowo’s Loyalists Against Civil War Comments by Yujin(m): 3:26pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
aribisala0:Actions and reactions are not equal in human interaction: True No rules in warfare(carrying out genocide) even among a people you claimed you intend to re-unite into your nation. Is there another word for annexation other than this? Do you know what it feels like to be insulted and abused by your 'fellow cowpatriots' simply because you are Igbo(lost a war)? Do you know what it feels to be told indirectly that you can't govern a country you are forced to be part of? How can this same people be proud of your Nigeria when their kinsmen are continually being murdered by islamists without the perpetrators prosecuted? You CANNOT JUST TELL THEM TO FORGET AND MOVE ON. On starting another war; when the time is ripe you will see. This is because Nigeria feels they have no case whereas their case is valid. Call the Igbos and address the Civil war issue(apology and restitution/compensation). Igbos do not hate other peoples of Nigeria. What they hate is the Nigerian system designed to make them irrelevant despite all their efforts(contributions) and sacrifices towards making Nigeria great. In the heart of OBJ and other nigerians who fought the civil war, they know very well the injustice done to the Igbos that is why they make these statements. To forget and move on like that is not possible. 4 Likes |
Re: Obasanjo Cautions Achebe & Awolowo’s Loyalists Against Civil War Comments by asha80(m): 3:29pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
Kslib:i still repeat you are not bright.i know the character because i have argued with him on this nairaland before.so you need a clue to know when someone is sarcastic?ok even at that the 'winking' smiley did not give you any hint?which pro biafra/igbo agreed with him?the 3 likes?has it occured to that those 3 likes are people who sided with his sardistic sarcastic comments?look if one makes a mistake the best thing is to accept it and move on instead of being sturbbonly adamant.you have written to address them,address who?the sarcastic writer or the igbos that had nothing with what was written.thunder fire fg for the poor educational system in the country. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Obasanjo Cautions Achebe & Awolowo’s Loyalists Against Civil War Comments by Nobody: 3:43pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
Isn't this man being given more publicity than he deserves? Why must this Ozodimgba with zero morals , thieving fingers and blood on his head continually give Nigerians advice It is very annoying to read Here is a man who ruled Nigeria for 3 terms ( counting his military reign) and achieved nothing,the same clown fought to rule again and the people cried out A man who was penniless languishing in jail,released to become an appeasement president after the killing of Abiola He quickly emptied out our treasury,set up his ugly daughter ,mistresses and other family members to positions of authority Started stealing with impunity at the same time selling out his nation to CIA according to wiki leaks The only president or public figure in the history of Nigeria known to have slept with his family members and did it without shame A man without honor in his hometown and his tribe The clown even has the guts to dole out advise to the presidency A man who should be spending his life locked up forever behind bars if Nigeria were a decent country. A crook who rigged elections like never before and crowned it with hoisting a dying invalid on us ,almost leading to a major chaos in the nation A shameless dirty minded old man that will not shut up his oversized mouth. Why must this certified thief continue to struggle to remain relevant in life by disturbing our peace when the blood of the children cry out for vengeance Nonsense! Nonsense I say If I had a newspaper house I would never interview him .He has nothing to tell anyone.he is largely part of the reason we are in this mess as a nation. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Obasanjo Cautions Achebe & Awolowo’s Loyalists Against Civil War Comments by redsun(m): 3:50pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
Why are they recycling this yeye man views with different healines?.We,the rational people knows that all he stands for is evil. In a faintly rational world,the least punishment for obj will be life in prison for his crimes against humanity,and here he is telling suppose civil citizens what is right or wrong. 1 Like |
Re: Obasanjo Cautions Achebe & Awolowo’s Loyalists Against Civil War Comments by Nobody: 3:56pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
redsun: Why are they recycling this yeye man views with different healines?.We,the rational people knows that all he stands for is evil. It annoys me to see his picture let alone read him. Why should this man walk around free upon all his atrocities? Singlehandedly crippled Nigerian airways We had a home phone since I was a tot I still remember the phone number,this man killed NITEL and killed landline in Nigeria and dragged us many decades backwards The taps dried up Electricity ceased completely all under that ape IBB is respecting himself and keeping quiet but Obasanjo will not sharap biko ndi moderators don't be annoying us by profiling this eediot Is the civil rights lawyer Nwabueze not speaking anymore? has Wole Soyinka been bought over? Abeg make una comot this baba nasty from hia jor 2 Likes |
Re: Obasanjo Cautions Achebe & Awolowo’s Loyalists Against Civil War Comments by aribisala0(m): 4:03pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
Yujin: Playing the victim card is not helpful . Every Nigerian insults each other and has done things they should not have done. Just as I cannot take responsibility personally for the wrongs of Nigerians against Igbos so also Igbos should not for their fellows. Igbo people were wronged in the pogroms of 1966 by Northern Mobs in connivance with troops of Northern Origin and this is to be condemned. I agree, though NOT ONLY Igbos were killed they bore the brunt of it. I do not agree that fighting the war to stop Biafra seceding was wrong and there can be no agreement there. It was a bloody brutal war and many more people died as a consequence than were killed in the North. Ojukwu must take responsibility. The obvious question is what was he supposed to do when his people were being killed in droves?Honestly I don't know but there is no doubt that he could have saved many more lives if he had surrendered much earlier. I have read about and have met many victims of the war.Their stories are harrowing and not trivial but life is often not black or white their is usually a lot of grey in between. A small number of Igbos played a role in what befell their people in Northern Nigeria where there were documented cases of Northerners being taunted about their slain leaders in barracks /streetsand even a record made in that effort.The crises brewed over a period when an Igbo was Head of State and perhaps did not do enough to avert it or even contributed to it.Did that justify the consequences No but that is life. The same thing is happening today with Boko Haram is the solution secession? No. The Truth is Nigeria is a creation of the British bringing together many peoples of different cultures in an arrangement that can politely be described as "difficult". It is dishonest to pretend that Hausas,Yorubas,or any Non-Igbo group has benefitted more than Igbos from Nigeria. From all Indications Norther Nigeria has benefitted the least from the arrangement. This is in contrast to Northern Elite who are able to steal directly the nation's wealth more than Elite from any other group. I am not one of them and I doubt you are. In that respect ordinary Nigerians are very much the same. There is a particular burden Igbos carry and that is this idea of being more meritorious,the idea that if everything was done properly then Igbos would naturally come to the top and this idea is projected in ways that are far from subtle to ALL Nigerians. The truth is this problem is evident even outside Nigeria whether in Cameroun or Ivory Coast or Guinea or Cameroun. For all I know it may be true even. May be Igbos are better than all of us but you still need to learn two things To swallow your pride To see things from the other person's perspective. How true is this idea that Igbos have been told they can't govern. Are Igbos more important than Edo,Igala,Tiv,Efik,Ijebu and many others who have not been head of state. How many NON Military heads of state have we had in Nigeria for us to say Igbos are being marginalized? So far we have had Balewa Shagari Obasanjo Yar adua Jonathan 5 non military heads of state discounting Shonekan which was irrelevant. We can effectively describe them as 4 terms since Yaradua/Jonathan is one term It is a fact than none of these 5 is Hausa,Kanuri,Edo,Efik,Tiv,Igala,Urhobo or Itsekiri. why are these people not screaming.Why do the Igbos feel more important than them? By all means let us have an Igbo President but none on the basis of some presumed special right for Igbo. when people say an Igbo cannot be president this is not a constitutional issue but a numbers issue. To become President you need other Nigerians to vote for you . The question is is this likely to happen based on how Igbos relate to other Nigerians? This is a reality based question. No amount of whining or playing victim will change that.You have no right to be trusted.You earn trust by respecting people and dealing with integrity if you believe you are doing so put it to the test at the ballot. Certainly the unending campaign of hatred against Yorubas only indicates poor awareness of self interest and how to pursue it. 19 Likes |
Re: Obasanjo Cautions Achebe & Awolowo’s Loyalists Against Civil War Comments by honeric01(m): 4:05pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
When is this blaming, whining and crying going to stop? Dem throwey your pot of soup, so what? go and cook another one since na u cook the first one before. Hia! 2 Likes |
Re: Obasanjo Cautions Achebe & Awolowo’s Loyalists Against Civil War Comments by redsun(m): 4:06pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
babyosisi: The freedom of such people in the society buttresses the fact that nigeria is a failed state where the the corrupt rich are above the law and untouchable.It is a lawless state,therefore illegitimate. |
Re: Obasanjo Cautions Achebe & Awolowo’s Loyalists Against Civil War Comments by Nobody: 4:13pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
c.fours: Dam.n!!! |
Re: Obasanjo Cautions Achebe & Awolowo’s Loyalists Against Civil War Comments by ocelot2006(m): 4:17pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
c.fours: Keep dreaming. |
Re: Obasanjo Cautions Achebe & Awolowo’s Loyalists Against Civil War Comments by Nobody: 4:18pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
Kslib: |
Re: Obasanjo Cautions Achebe & Awolowo’s Loyalists Against Civil War Comments by Nobody: 4:32pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
asha 80: i still repeat you are not bright.i know the character because i have argued with him on this nairaland before.so you need a clue to know when someone is sarcastic?ok even at that the 'winking' smiley did not give you any hint?which pro biafra/igbo agreed with him?the 3 likes?has it occured to that those 3 likes are people who sided with his sardistic sarcastic comments?look if one makes a mistake the best thing is to accept it and move on instead of being sturbbonly adamant.you have written to address them,address who?the sarcastic writer or the igbos that had nothing with what was written.thunder fire fg for the poor educational system in the country. Asha, tis ok now, whether na sarcasm or sadistic.........tis ok and u too shd move on!!!! When u wanto impact knowledge on somebody and u keep lashing that person how do u want him/her to comprehend ur message!!! 1 Like |
Re: Obasanjo Cautions Achebe & Awolowo’s Loyalists Against Civil War Comments by aribisala0(m): 4:35pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
In times of tension we are ,all of us, capable of acting like a mob. today the government is at war with "BOKO HARAM" in our name. Do we question their methods? No. Many here on Nairaland cheer when they hear of more Boko haram fighter killings but atrocities are happening daily in "our name" and it is "okay" because Abokis are being killed. Do we question how many are innocent women or children? No. Somehow we tell ourselves they are in it together and deserve whatever they get.That kind of mindset is easy to produce using modern media . I am sure somthing similar happened in "Nigeria" during the Biafra war. We must somehow be able to rise above hurt and see things as they really are. We are all capable of the ALUU killings and a lot worse we are also capable of a lot better and hopefully we are in a position to make the right choices.Those who insist on being victims punish themselves and no one.Are we not all victims of Nigeria,the British 2 Likes |
Re: Obasanjo Cautions Achebe & Awolowo’s Loyalists Against Civil War Comments by Nobody: 4:52pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
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Re: Obasanjo Cautions Achebe & Awolowo’s Loyalists Against Civil War Comments by Nobody: 4:55pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
Reference: Yeah, yeah. But did the Nigerian government do what the allies led by the United States did in Europe in the aftermath of the second world war and uptil today, no. They rather did what the axis powers led by the Soviets did. And where are the Soviets today. If OBJ thinks he knows world history, some of us feast on it. Let him know that the primary driver of the second world war in europe was the malicious treaty of Versailles the terms of which sought to grind germany into the ground but only succeeded in stoking anti-european, nationalistic passions. Axis powers were lead by the Germans not the soviet union this is BS 1 Like |
Re: Obasanjo Cautions Achebe & Awolowo’s Loyalists Against Civil War Comments by Braincheck: 4:55pm On Jan 27, 2013 |
c.fours: Also by providing amnesty (in cash) 2 every igbo indigene as was done 4 nija delta militants. We too wan 'shop' money na. |
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