Kslib:
Just look at how to put the word backward blacks as if igbos aint black.. This inferiority complex of a thing is one major problem many black people have.. Always trying to claim something rather than trying to something so that others will claim them.. Ok,lets assume your jewish claim is true,
what has it changed?? Nothing!!!
Did it make your life better?? No!!!
Does it stop the whiteman from calling you a black monkey?? No!!!
Is there a jew inscription on your fore-head?? No!!!
Can you tell the difference btw an igbo man and a calabar/delta/edo/kogi man just by their structure of facial structure?? No!!
You said the igbos are stuck with backward black africans shey.. Pls go check the number of crimes committed in this country(minus the north).look east,west and south and tell me the tribe that tops the list hands down without arguement...
Go check the international crimes committed by Nigerians all over the world and tell me the tribe that tops that same list hands down...
LASTLY,WHAT MAKES YOU THINK BIAFRA WOULD BE ANY BETTER IF NIGERIA EVENTUALLY DIVIDES.. SO OTHERS WILL BE FOOLING THEMSELVES AND SLEEPING WHILE BIAFRA KEEPS DEVELOPING ABI?? PLS WAKE-UP!!
I HATE ANYTHING THAT USES TRIBE TO DISUNITE OR MAKE ANY TRIBE FEEL THEY ARE BETTER THAN THE OTHER.. I HATE TRIBAL WAR AND THE WORLD WOULD HAVE BEEN A BETTER PLACE WITHOUT TRIBE,RACE AND COLOUR,BUT I GUESS ITS TOO LATE..
LET ME END BY SAYING THIS "THERE IS NOTHING SPECIAL,I MEAN NOTHING SPECIAL ABOUT IGBO PEOPLE".. There are like any other Nigerian out there,the difference is that they have been brain washed to beleive they are better than any Nigerian who aint igbo...
I dont belong to any of the three main languages,but i beleive if Nigeria divides,the south-west would be better than biafra by far.. Just look around and see the conditions/enviroments and visions for the future both have,and you will know what i'm talking about... You dont just have to keep shouting and shouting just show us your present foundation and let us decide how strong the building will be...
IF YOU WANT TO SHOOT,SHOOT DONT TALK..

Dede1: One of the most idiotic aspects of the speech was the silly attempt to compare WWII with Britain-Nigeria\Biafra civil war. In WWII the battles were fought by independent countries and when the war ended, the combatants went back to their countries to rebuild and re-establish as they wished without little or no hindrance from opposing combatants.

However in the case of Nigeria\Biafra, the combatants remained in the same country and the so-called victors made sure vanquish never saw the rays of Sun again. Yet this goofy old fellow wants the Biafrans to forget. What a lapper.

icon aus: It is too early to forget the war . we re witnessing the aftermath of the war today in Nigeria. What happened prior to civil war is repeating itself today and you say we should forget the civil war. Obj is not comfortable that nemesis will soon catch with him and other murderers. Can we forget the civil war when Obj and Co are still preventing igbos from getting the presidency . The war is still on . The earlier we face the reality the better for us by coming together to negotiate Nigeria or go the path of reconciliation or go our separate ways . Nigeria cannot afford to continue like until something happens . If not for the civil war lesion , Nigeria would have gone to war 3 times starting from Abiola saga to Boko wahala . OBJ is not a deep thinker and enlightened for making such statement

PROUD-IGBO:


^^^ grieveance my sister. It's that admonition to 'FORGET' that irks; nobody (from all sides) should be told to forget, b'cos if we do and issues are left unresolved, then we are just postponing the evil day.....and the underlying simmering resentment would mean we can NEVER be a united country.

texazzpete:

Nobody is 'preventing the Igbo from getting the Presidency'. It's a democracy...where are the Igbo leaders of note we're supposed to vote for? Orji Uzor Kalu? Why is there no single Governor in the South East that is spoken of with the same reverence as the likes of Fashola or even Oshiomhole? Does it have to be an Igbo Presidency before you feel appeased?

You people blather on and on about war...as someone once said "Only one who has never faced MAchine gun bullets can see war as 'fun'"

texazzpete:

Nobody is 'preventing the Igbo from getting the Presidency'. It's a democracy...where are the Igbo leaders of note we're supposed to vote for? Orji Uzor Kalu? Why is there no single Governor in the South East that is spoken of with the same reverence as the likes of Fashola or even Oshiomhole? Does it have to be an Igbo Presidency before you feel appeased?

You people blather on and on about war...as someone once said "Only one who has never faced MAchine gun bullets can see war as 'fun'"

bankyman: eAnd what are you going to do about it.... let the sleeping dog lie, like the old man said for every body has one thing or the other to express their grieveance about.

aribisala0:
Many Igbos on this forum appear to place so much value in this business of being or not being a coward.I find this funny to be honest. So It is better to NOT be a coward or to prove you are not a coward and sacrifice the lives of millions of people. Cowardice and pragmatism on the one hand, Bravery and recklessness on the other may be two sides of the same coin and different currencies mean more to different peoples I suppose. That kind of resoluteness we saw in the Japanese who would then go on to commit suicide if they had been in Ojukwu's shoes but Ojukwu was not Japanese and people see the world differently.
Again many Igbos talk of Aburi . The reality is that Biafra was not in a position militarily to insist on Aburi or anything. It was defeated ab initio and the macabre dance of death that followed was an inevitable consequence of Ojukwu's choice. The issue is not who was right or wrong but a purely military one. Did the British discuss with anybody before amalgamating Nigeria in 1914? Why did we not go to war. Is it when an armed robber enters your house and point a gun at your son that you display bravery? Machismo is not bravery at all
Ojukwu had a bad hand if I may use a card metaphor. He had no good choices. No one is holding the Igbo down.Did Ojukuwu consult with the Non Igbo groups in Biafra and did they support him. As long as you open a Biafra debate you will find others who disagree with you.That will not change. You can always start the war again or get on with the current reality. What about the killings of Akintola,Sardauna,and others and Ironsi's handling of that affair is that not relevant too. The story has several sides to it.Not just an Igbo side

icon aus:
What happened when Ekwueme was at the verge of clinching PDP ticket and OBJ was released from prison to stop him with the support of the ruling class Abubakar, Babangida and the likes? Just tell yourself the truth

icon aus:

What happened when Ekwueme was at the verge of clinching PDP ticket and OBJ was released from prison to stop him with the support of the ruling class Abubakar, Babangida and the likes? Just tell yourself the truth

coogar:

why did the igbos vote for obj then if your claim is true that obj was let out of prison to stop ekwueme's presidential dreams? one thing i can tell you though - the yorubas did not vote for obj. he lost even on his street in 1999 so what's the fuss about? falae was the preferred candidate in the south west but the ndigbos colluded with the northerners as usual to put pdp in power!

babaolofin: If somebody you hate can not be silenced, you either ignore him or make yourself sad.

It is possible for somebody to be extrovert another might be introvert.
All the points you raised show that you are aggrieved and depressed each time Obj is being celeberated

Firstly, Nitel died out of inability to survive competition. It has enjoyed monopoly all its life. The monopoly set us back as a nation many years back. The story of your grandfather landline on nairaland is for the sick mind at the era when getting a trunk call from Lagos to PH or Kano to Owerri is almost impossible, all you get is "all trunk lines are busy". International call is by the grace of God, even with IDD. Most of the time, I have slept at Nitel exchange to make an international call call . The charge for an international call per minute is more than =N=200/minute after a long wait on the queue at the exchange. Telephone accessibility per person statistics is almost Zero. To get a Nitel line in commercial centers of Nigeria cost above =N=200,000/line (official + Nigerian factor),it is even higher for analogue cell phone (090) with his very limited functionalities and was used as a status definer. Multilinks, Starcoms and Intercellular lines cost over =N=120k/line. It takes months to get these lines after payment. I have fought at their offices several times to get my line after payment. For Nitel in some cities, digital line is not available even if you have money to pay.
Internet is the worst victim, only Nitel provides internet service. About two or three companies existing at the time were buying services from Nitel. Dial-up to these companies frustrated access to internet. Even CTL direct connection at the eve of breaking the monopoly did not help much as the bandwidth is being regulated by Nitel through services provided by GS Telecom. Communication was a nightmare. NCC cannot fully regulate Nitel operations as at that time. Nitel made itself more superior than the regulator.
The deregulation finally liberated millions of Nigerians and businesses currently enjoying access to information interchange. Some people fought this battle and paid the price.

On the Nigeria Airways, how many planes were operational as at handing over in 1979? How many planes were operational in 1999? How much debt both international and local was the airline owing? What is the rate of returns on investment made over the years by government? Who will be paying the staff salaries and those debts? How about royalty to government on the usage of FAAN properties? Should the government continue to run an indebted non profitable commercialized airline as a not for profit organization with the oil money?

Well, with the agenda at the aviation ministry now, we shall see where we are going.
Till date, except history is changed tomorrow, the greatest reforms we have had are those between 1976 -1979 and 1999 – 2003.
If everybody is thinking and acting the way you people do, we cannot survive as a nation, you will still be the victims rather than being victors.

Andre Uweh:
Very simple. Ekwueme, immediately he lost congratulated OBJ and requested Ndigbo and his followers to support his PDP. During the fight agains military regime, the formation of G32 and up to the formation of PDP, Ekwueme had emerged as the sole recognised Igbo leader. He had won a lot of people's heart not just Ndigbo.

texazzpete:

Ekwueme was outclassed by superior politics...it's as simple as that.
Why does it really have to be PDP you guys use to achieve your aims? Can you list for me all the South Eastern presidential candidates from the other parties in Nigeria (including APGA) and their selling point?

Where were you when APGA endorsed GEJ for presidency?

Where were you when Ohaneze urged all Igbos to vote for GEJ? Why not hold your 'candidate' to task?

coogar:

there you go......
so why are the ndigbos moaning then? if they had kowtowed the yorubas in supporting falae, maybe things would have been better. however, to support a prodigal son like obasanjo who his people did not even want is like shooting one's foot in the foot!

Andre Uweh:
PDP was a national party and Ndigbo had bitter experiences of being in the minority party during the second republic. Ndigbo only supported the party at the centre, not just OBJ.

coogar:

why did the igbos vote for obj then if your claim is true that obj was let out of prison to stop ekwueme's presidential dreams? one thing i can tell you though - the yorubas did not vote for obj. he lost even on his street in 1999 so what's the fuss about? falae was the preferred candidate in the south west but the ndigbos colluded with the northerners as usual to put pdp in power!

coogar:

of which if they have thrown all their support behind AD, the outcome would have been loads different. letting PDP steal that march on their rivals is the reason we are here today. there's not going to be an end to their dominance. they would rule for the next 100 yrs. ndigbos have nothing to moan about - their wish has been granted!

Andre Uweh:
Col Ojukwu does not require to consult about 30% of non Igbo people of eastern Nigeria before declaring Biafra. It is never done anywhere in the world. Those non Igbo people had their representatives at the Eastern Nigerian parliament and they never dissented to the formation of the new nation..

Ngwakwe: Apology and compensation should be paid to Biafrans for depriving them of their means of livelihood.

Why should a human with a brain seize peoples wealth after the war has ended, giving them twenty pounds irrespective of how much they have in the bank.

This is pure wickedness.

Restitution is needed from Nigerian Government to Easterners.

aribisala0:
I think that says it all so why does Nigeria need to consult Ndigbo who are less than 30% before appointing a President after all that is not as important as declaring a new nation??

aribisala0:
But this is a blatant lie !! Is there a case of one person who came with a passbook or bank document and denied his money because HE WAS IGBO. How come it is only Igbos making this claim? Efiks and Ijaw did not have bank accounts?

You expect banks to pay you money without documents? Where is this done. Rather the Nigerian Government very munificently gave £20 each to millions of people most of whom probably never had a bank account or had emptied their accounts. Where are the bank statements? Did Ojukwu not go to court to claim his property
. What about the money Ojukwu looted from the CBN what happened to it?.
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Andre Uweh: You earlier asked if Ojukwu consulted non Igbo people before declaring Biafra. The aswer I gave is yes because they had their representatives at Enugu and those men represented their views. So they were consulted. I went further to let you know that they were also enlisted in the militias that were formed in Nov 67. That further shows you that they like their Igbo counterparts were ready to defend their new nation. Apart from the militias, they were also in the regular army especially the 51st and 53 brigades.

joeyfire:

Don't get it twisted, ekwueme did not lose to obasanjo in a general election, he lost in the PDP primary elections. He lost because ekwueme was an igbo man and the northern military class wanted someone to cover their azzes with someone dirty that they could trust. Obj handed over to GEJ indirectly and because he was weak and was someone he could trust and the return of democracy to this country became compromised and has descended to the shyte we see today

Andre Uweh:
Forget the moaning, Ndigbo in Nigeria only wants equity, justice fairness etc. If any administration can provide Ndigbo with their wishes, that administration will be supported any time any day. Having an Igbo man as president may even benefit other ethnic groups more than Ndigbo. So what's the point.
I can remember clearly that when Chukwuma Soludo was gov of central bank, all his appointments were to Yorubas, Hausas etc to the detriment of his people.
Even after the overthrow of the civilian regime in 1966. Two Igbo leaders emerged. One in the north led by Nzeogwu. The other in the south led by Ironsi. But guess what, they both sorrounded themselves with non Igbo people. My point here is that if we have an Igbo president today, he will tend to placate Hausas and Yorubas.
What I personally want is someone who will benefit Ndigbo irrespective of ethnicity.

aribisala0:
You believe your gospel and I believe mine, short of starting another war we will continue to go round in circles because we simply will not persuade each other. Nigeria prevailed and Biafra is history.Those people who experienced it know it was not a picnic others think it is some macho adventure they can roll the dice again and see what gives.