Ola, i know u can do anything for ur oyel well, but don't decieve urself, Abraham is nt ur father, u r a Yoruba man(gentile) Abraham is d father of jews.

Zikkyy:
If God did not request for tithe from salary, if he did not request for tithe from sales of goods and services (which most likely will come in the form of cash), on what authority do you make your claim that you can tithe anything?

hav eyou seen this verse of the Bibile - Malachi 3:10 (Amplified)

Will a man rob or defraud God? Yet you rob and defraud Me. But you say, In what way do we rob or defraud You? [You have withheld your] tithes and offerings.

9 You are cursed with the curse, for you are robbing Me, even this whole nation.

10 Bring all the tithes (the whole tenth of your income) into the storehouse, that there may be food in My house, and prove Me now by it, says the Lord of hosts, if I will not open the windows of heaven for you and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

God bless!

Mark Miwerds: God has opened my eyes. Your worship is in vain.

You judge me? By their fruit, we shall know them. I guess the truth hurts!

swtchicgurl:

hav eyou seen this verse of the Bibile - Malachi 3:10 (Amplified)

Will a man rob or defraud God? Yet you rob and defraud Me. But you say, In what way do we rob or defraud You? [You have withheld your] tithes and offerings.

9 You are cursed with the curse, for you are robbing Me, even this whole nation.

10 Bring all the tithes (the whole tenth of your income) into the storehouse, that there may be food in My house, and prove Me now by it, says the Lord of hosts, if I will not open the windows of heaven for you and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

Lol! @ the highlighted bit of the bible reference so let see now, the Amplified version says tithe of income and you assume it was talking about cash abi? okay, let look at Malachi in more detail, again quoting Malachi 3:10-11......

Malachi 3:11 Amplified Bible (AMP)
10 Bring all the tithes (the whole tenth of your income) into the storehouse, that there may be food in My house, and prove Me now by it, says the Lord of hosts, if I will not open the windows of heaven for you and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

see verse 11 .......

Malachi 3:11 Amplified Bible (AMP)
11 And I will rebuke the devourer [insects and plagues] for your sakes and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground, neither shall your vine drop its fruit before the time in the field, says the Lord of hosts.

Do you see the bit highlighted blue? now what is the nature of income that can be 'devoured' by insects and diseases? is it the cash in the bank or assets/income from the capital markets/real estate e.t.c maybe its the share certificate that will be devoured. Well sorry to disappoint you, share certificate are no longer in vogue

I want to believe you are now convinced that tithe was always about agric produce

Verse also says "that there may be food in my house." Not money, food.

Amazing how she overlooked that important truth, eh?

Zikkyy:

Lol! @ the highlighted bit of the bible reference so let see now, the Amplified version says tithe of income and you assume it was talking about cash abi? okay, let look at Malachi in more detail, again quoting Malachi 3:10-11......

Malachi 3:11 Amplified Bible (AMP)
10 Bring all the tithes (the whole tenth of your income) into the storehouse, that there may be food in My house, and prove Me now by it, says the Lord of hosts, if I will not open the windows of heaven for you and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

see verse 11 .......

Malachi 3:11 Amplified Bible (AMP)
11 And I will rebuke the devourer [insects and plagues] for your sakes and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground, neither shall your vine drop its fruit before the time in the field, says the Lord of hosts.

Do you see the bit highlighted blue? now what is the nature of income that can be 'devoured' by insects and diseases? is it the cash in the bank or assets/income from the capital markets/real estate e.t.c maybe its the share certificate that will be devoured. Well sorry to disappoint you, share certificate are no longer in vogue

I want to believe you are now convinced that tithe was always about agric produce

how did you manage to miss where i said "You can pay tithe of anything, cash, kind or material" Are you saying is only limited to farmers? are you not to tithe of the income of your occupation? are you a farmer?

God bless

swtchicgurl:

You judge me? By their fruit, we shall know them. I guess the truth hurts!

Your fruit clearly is not lining up with Scripture. You judge us to be in err because we point out that the tithe was never required in the New Testament Gentile Church, yet you have no Scripture to prove your allegations against us.

Mark Miwerds: Verse also says "that there may be food in my house." Not money, food.

Amazing how she overlooked that important truth, eh?

did you just say overlook? have you forgotten what you read in my earlier post?

is your income food or agricultural produce?

swtchicgurl:

how did you manage to miss where i said "You can pay tithe of anything, cash, kind or material" Are you saying is only limited to farmers? are you not to tithe of the income of your occupation? are you a farmer?

God bless

God's tithe was never anything other than agricultural. Everywhere tithes are seen in the Law, they were of food products. How do you get "you can pay tithe of anything, cash, kind of material" out of tithes of food?

Mark Miwerds: Your fruit clearly is not lining up with Scripture. You judge us to be in err because we point out that the tithe was never required in the New Testament Gentile Church, yet you have no Scripture to prove your allegations against us.

I don't have anyhting against you sir! New Testament Gentile church?

swtchicgurl:

I don't have anyhting against you sir! New Testament Gentile church?

Gentile Converts were not required to tithe according to Acts 15. The fact that the Gentile Churches were not told to tithe in any epistles in the New Testament confirms the decision made at the Jerusalem Council in 35 A.D..

Mark Miwerds: God's tithe was never anything other than agricultural. Everywhere tithes are seen in the Law, they were of food products. How do you get "you can pay tithe of anything, cash, kind of material" out of tithes of food?

If all I've said so far isn't enough for you, I'll have to just pray for you.

God bless

swtchicgurl:

If all I've said so far isn't enough for you, I'll have to just pray for you.

God bless

No, what you have said is not enough. Especially since the Word of God declares the tithes under the Law were eaten.

Do you eat gold and silver? Why do you insist that we believe the Israelites did?

@ swtchicgurl
As it occurred to you that the use of the word 'income' in the amplified translation you chose to use is a misrepresentation of biblical tithe and the wrong translation is obviously based on the false tithe version that has been institutionalised today?

swtchicgurl:

If all I've said so far isn't enough for you, I'll have to just pray for you.

God bless

pls let me undastand u, do u collect/pay tithe according to the law?

Mark Miwerds: no, couldn't have me competing with you in the assumptions department. No worries though. I am not assuming.

Leviticus 27:30-33 gives the contents of God's Holy tithe. Fish were not tithed.

Lev 27:30 And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the LORD's: it is holy unto the LORD.
Lev 27:31 And if a man will at all redeem aught of his tithes, he shall add thereto the fifth part thereof.
Lev 27:32 And concerning the tithe of the herd, or of the flock, even of whatsoever passeth under the rod, the tenth shall be holy unto the LORD.
Lev 27:33 He shall not search whether it be good or bad, neither shall he change it: and if he change it at all, then both it and the change thereof shall be holy; it shall not be redeemed.

Question says "Give us bible support that says that fishermen should not tithe." The above passage does not say that, neither does it limit God's tithe to the passage. If it had said ONLY verse 30-33 are God's tithe, you would have a case for this verse.

Enigma: ^^^ In like manner, give us one Bible passage where it says Christians should tithe money and that it should be paid into "church".

Give us one passage that says tithes cannot go to the poor or to an orphanage or to an old people's home etc!

Would you give us the Bible passage that says Christians should not tithe money? No one has taught that tithes cannot go to the poor or to an orphanage or to an old people's home. There is room for such and this is plainly taught in Deuteronomy 14v28,29.

swtchicgurl:

how did you manage to miss where i said "You can pay tithe of anything, cash, kind or material" Are you saying is only limited to farmers? are you not to tithe of the income of your occupation? are you a farmer?

God limited it Israeli farmers and it does not include people farming stuff like indian hemp o!

God did not command that we tithe income of our occupation, that's why we don't tithe

Mark Miwerds: God has opened my eyes. Your worship is in vain.

WHAT! Who gave you the authority to make this judgement? A believer's worship is vain because the person gives tithes?

Image123:
Lev 27:30 And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the LORD's: it is holy unto the LORD.
Lev 27:31 And if a man will at all redeem aught of his tithes, he shall add thereto the fifth part thereof.
Lev 27:32 And concerning the tithe of the herd, or of the flock, even of whatsoever passeth under the rod, the tenth shall be holy unto the LORD.
Lev 27:33 He shall not search whether it be good or bad, neither shall he change it: and if he change it at all, then both it and the change thereof shall be holy; it shall not be redeemed.

Question says "Give us bible support that says that fishermen should not tithe." The above passage does not say that, neither does it limit God's tithe to the passage. If it had said ONLY verse 30-33 are God's tithe, you would have a case for this verse.

Now why would a fisherman tithe if God did not include him in the list. I wonder how some people reason. So if the president changes his cabinet today and provides a list of ministerial appointees, because the president did not say Image123 is not one of the appointees, you will go to Abuja and resume as a minister

Image123:
neither does it limit God's tithe to the passage. If it had said ONLY verse 30-33 are God's tithe, you would have a case for this verse.

God already told you what is holy to him. You want to add to it are you now God to decide for him? on what authority do you decide what is Holy to the Lord? since the passage did not limit God's tithe, you are saying we are now free to decide what is Holy to the Lord? can we now say tithe from prosti.tution or robbery is holy to the Lord? can you just listen to your self

Zikkyy:

Now why would a fisherman tithe if God did not include him in the list. I wonder how some people reason. So if the president changes his cabinet today and provides a list of ministerial appointees, because the president did not say Image123 is not one of the appointees, you will go to Abuja and resume as a minister



God already told you what is holy to him. You want to add to it are you now God to decide for him? on what authority do you decide what is Holy to the Lord? since the passage did not limit God's tithe, you are saying we are now free to decide what is Holy to the Lord? can we now say tithe from prosti.tution or robbery is holy to the Lord? can you just listen to your self

maybe we can tithe sand? Or marbles? Better yet, tithe the dust that keeps accumulating on a daily basis?

These tithers should just stick to the Word of God, and leave their vain imaginations out of the equation.

Zikkyy:

Now why would a fisherman tithe if God did not include him in the list. I wonder how some people reason. So if the president changes his cabinet today and provides a list of ministerial appointees, because the president did not say Image123 is not one of the appointees, you will go to Abuja and resume as a minister



God already told you what is holy to him. You want to add to it are you now God to decide for him? on what authority do you decide what is Holy to the Lord? since the passage did not limit God's tithe, you are saying we are now free to decide what is Holy to the Lord? can we now say tithe from prosti.tution or robbery is holy to the Lord? can you just listen to your self

I had decided to stop commenting on this thread but I actually burst into laughter at this post by Zikkyy. I'll add you to my list of NL comedians.

Are you a Niger delta bred guy by any chance? You sound like one?

Bidam: Go read the lev6:16 Paul made reference to.

Aaron and his sons were eating fermented cake. Eating from things of the altar. ie the maintenance principle Paul quoted.

You should have done well to show us that principle was about tithe. What Paul was referring to was very clear.

Boomark:

Aaron and his sons were eating fermented cake. Eating from things of the altar. ie the maintenance principle Paul quoted.

You should have done well to show us that principle was about tithe. What Paul was referring to was very clear.

Wait, Boomark...
you mean to tell me they were "eating the things of the altar and not "spending" the things of the altar?

I mean, what are you trying to do, destroy the new Bible that the tither's have created?

LOL

OLAADEGBU:



Why all the stammering? Calm down. You need to become a child of Abraham in the first place before you start talking about tithes and offerings. Don't put the cart before the horse.

Taaa! I caught you red hand twisting a simple truth and you are now blaming Abraham. I belong to Christ. You better follow Christ not Abraham.

Judas the purse bearer is the father of tithe collectors(purse bearers) who have no regard for the poor but are more interested in their pockets. To what i wrote before, there is no contention.

Zikkyy:

Now why would a fisherman tithe if God did not include him in the list. I wonder how some people reason. So if the president changes his cabinet today and provides a list of ministerial appointees, because the president did not say Image123 is not one of the appointees, you will go to Abuja and resume as a minister



God already told you what is holy to him. You want to add to it are you now God to decide for him? on what authority do you decide what is Holy to the Lord? since the passage did not limit God's tithe, you are saying we are now free to decide what is Holy to the Lord? can we now say tithe from prosti.tution or robbery is holy to the Lord? can you just listen to your self

there will b drama on judgement day, imagine d reaction of these fraudsters who collect tithes from prosti.tutes, drug barons, ritualist/satanists, pension fund thieves, armed robbers , kienapers, police, cultists etc etc, when their charges will b read out to them. Tithe collectors, repent o, i dey tell una o.

Zikkyy:

Now why would a fisherman tithe if God did not include him in the list. I wonder how some people reason. So if the president changes his cabinet today and provides a list of ministerial appointees, because the president did not say Image123 is not one of the appointees, you will go to Abuja and resume as a minister



God already told you what is holy to him. You want to add to it are you now God to decide for him? on what authority do you decide what is Holy to the Lord? since the passage did not limit God's tithe, you are saying we are now free to decide what is Holy to the Lord? can we now say tithe from prosti.tution or robbery is holy to the Lord? can you just listen to your self

there will b drama on judgement day, imagine d reaction of these fraudsters who collect tithes from prosti.tutes, drug barons, ritualist/satanists, pension fund thieves, armed robbers , kienapers, police, cultists etc etc, when their charges will b read out to them. Tithe collectors, repent o, i dey tell una o.

Mark Miwerds: Wait, Boomark...
you mean to tell me they were "eating the things of the altar and not "spending" the things of the altar?

I mean, what are you trying to do, destroy the new Bible that the tither's have created?

LOL

destroy! It must. that bible that switch from Abraham's tithe to malachi tithe as if it is playing hide and seek.

Boomark:

destroy! It must. that bible that switch from Abraham's tithe to malachi tithe as if it is playing hide and seek.

I know what you mean, Bro. Prove them wrong in one, they run to the other. Prove them wrong there, they run back to the one.

It's a wonder they don't stay dizzy the way they run around in circles as they do. LOL

Mark Miwerds: I know what you mean, Bro. Prove them wrong in one, they run to the other. Prove them wrong there, they run back to the one.

It's a wonder they don't stay dizzy the way they run around in circles as they do. LOL

bros don't expect them to b dizzy o, they'v been runing round for ages, and only see things in circles, they av issues with anything dat is straight. May God v mercy on them.

Mark Miwerds: maybe we can tithe sand? Or marbles? Better yet, tithe the dust that keeps accumulating on a daily basis?

These tithers should just stick to the Word of God, and leave their vain imaginations out of the equation.

One would have imagined that by now, you would have produced or shown that Bible support that you say are not rocket science, and which you clim to be in Genesis 4 and reading on through many chapters. If it were possible for you sef, you will tell us Abraham's tithe is unacceptable to you. i'm waiting Mark.

christemmbassey:

Ola, i know u can do anything for ur oyel well, but don't decieve urself, Abraham is nt ur father, u r a Yoruba man(gentile) Abraham is d father of jews.

Boomark:

Taaa! I caught you red hand twisting a simple truth and you are now blaming Abraham. I belong to Christ. You better follow Christ not Abraham.

Judas the purse bearer is the father of tithe collectors(purse bearers) who have no regard for the poor but are more interested in their pockets. To what i wrote before, there is no contention.

These objections should be expected from most anti tithers and they say whether or not you are really Abraham's children. Read Galatians 3:1-29; Romans 4:12-17 to see who the promise has been given to. Pay special attention to the following verses: Romans 4:12; Galatians 3: 6-9, 14-16 and verse 29.