benalvino:

thats the business of the Oneness pentecostal religion... but your guy is beginning to sound like them

My guy is quoting scriptures for you but now you dont want to hear it.

Syncan:

My brother, as if it wasn't scripture I quoted all through. But I like the guy shaa, I know he will revisit all these.

are you saying Jesus is the father, son and holy spirit? only him?

benalvino:

please make your point... we know the Word became flesh... and the bible says the word was God

Is the word, the Father?

Syncan:

Is the word, the Father?

Nope... the word is Jesus...

benalvino:
Nope... the word is Jesus...

But you said, the word is God.

How can it be God without the father? (according to you)

Bravo @Benalvino,

At least you were bold enough to state your views clearly (even though they are self-contradictory).

Notice how the other anti-Catholics have long fled or resorted to making comments that are off-point.

Bravo!

Syncan:

But you said, the word is God.

How can it be God without the father? (according to you)

oh boy... Lol your understand is the issue... In the beginning was the word and the word was with the God and the word was God... You can't say God was with him self right ? Jesus was with the father in the beginning...

italo: Bravo @Benalvino,

At least you were bold enough to state your views clearly (even though they are self-contradictory).

Notice how the other anti-Catholics have long fled or resorted to making comments that are off-point.

Bravo!

Please list my contradictions...

benalvino:
Please list my contradictions...

You said Jesus was only a man on earth...then you agreed that he who sees Jesus sees God.

Hard not to borrow a few moves from the old testament.

benalvino:
are you saying Jesus is the father, son and holy spirit? only him?

"Who the cap fits let him wear it". The caps fit him, so why not? I like the one he wears for sunday service

benalvino:
oh boy... Lol your understand is the issue... In the beginning was the word and the word was with the God and the word was God... You can't say God was with him self right ? Jesus was with the father in the beginning...

and when he was with the apostles, was he God?

Syncan:

and when he was with the apostles, was he God?

was he not? When He walked on water, was He not God? Who else can walk on water? Not even angels.

Debroslink:
was he not? When He walked on water, was He not God? Who else can walk on water? Not even angels.

Now my friend, you are most correct. He was God. Remember that same person was given birth to by Mary. If he was God then, and mary His mother, why do you quarrel with me when I call her "mother of God"? You can see where I'm coming from.

Shdemidemi say Jesus on earth was not God, only man.

Debroslink says he was God.

Benalvino says he was only man yet says those who saw him saw God.

Confusion!

Syncan:


Now my friend, you are most correct. He was God. Remember that same person was given birth to by Mary. If he was God then, and mary His mother, why do you quarrel with me when I call her "mother of God"? You can see where I'm coming from.

I bet he still cant see.

Not until he takes off the scales of hatred and sentiments.

italo:

You said Jesus was only a man on earth...then you agreed that he who sees Jesus sees God.

If you look back you will see that I said Jesus is God and he dropped his deity so he can die... He took up the form of a man... Therefore he was a man... But people identify that he was God... The word that was made flesh...
So my point had not changed.

Lol you guys could answer my question... And because of my question your trinity believes keeps changing...

benalvino:
If you look back you will see that I said Jesus is God and he dropped his deity so he can die... He took up the form of a man... Therefore he was a man... But people identify that he was God... The word that was made flesh...
So my point had not changed.

You agreed that anyone that sees Jesus sees God.

Now I dont understand your position anymore.

1. When Pilate saw Jesus, did he see God?

2. Who were the people that identified that he was God?

benalvino: Lol you guys could answer my question... And because of my question your trinity believes keeps changing...

Catholic teaching on Trinity doesnt change. It is you who says you believe it but dont even know what it is.

That's why Syncan told you to study the doctrine of the Trinity.

italo:

You agreed that anyone that sees Jesus sees God.

Now I dont understand your position anymore.

1. When Pilate saw Jesus, did he see God?

2. Who were the people that identified that he was God?

What is your point... Common man... the bible says the word became flesh...
it also says he made him self nothing and took on the nature of man... While Jesus was God in the beginning in other to die for us he has to be man... that is the point... Him as God or the word have to come to earth and live as a man amongst us and Mary is the chosen one... while you see Christ as God... he was reliant in the holy spirit and his father because he made him self nothing... then he can bleed hungry etc... that is the truth... Mary Gave birth to a man.

there is no point Going on... you just dont want to accept the truth... italo even when the bible says you should not bow down to any image... you guys still do it anyway and think it is not wrong. if that is the case you guys will not accept this one too.

italo:

Catholic teaching on Trinity doesnt change. It is you who says you believe it but dont even know what it is.

That's why Syncan told you to study the doctrine of the Trinity.

sycan has given multiple flipflop explanation of it... so its you guys who are confused...

benalvino:

What is your point... Common man... the bible says the word became flesh...
it also says he made him self nothing and took on the nature of man... While Jesus was God in the beginning in other to die for us he has to be man... that is the point... Him as God or the word have to come to earth and live as a man amongst us and Mary is the chosen one... while you see Christ as God... he was reliant in the holy spirit and his father because he made him self nothing... then he can bleed hungry etc... that is the truth... Mary Gave birth to a man.

there is no point Going on... you just dont want to accept the truth... italo even when the bible says you should not bow down to any image... you guys still do it anyway and think it is not wrong. if that is the case you guys will not accept this one too.

The questions were:
1. When Pilate saw Jesus, did he see God?

2. Who were the people that identified that he was God?

You answered none, pretending that you dont want to go on...then you try to change the topic to that of images.

benalvino:

sycan has given multiple flipflop explanation of it... so its you guys who are confused...

It is a lie. You are the one who has been making up flip-flop definitions on his behalf.

Go and study the doctrine of the Trinity which you claim to believe in.

Ignorance is bad enough.

To add arrogance to it is worse.

To be obstinate in arrogance and ignorance is fatal.

italo:

It is a lie. You are the one who has been making up flip-flop definitions on his behalf.

Go and study the doctrine of the Trinity which you claim to believe in.

Ignorance is bad enough.

To add arrogance to it is worse.

To be obstinate in arrogance and ignorance is fatal.

[size=28pt]Even if You and sycan make total crap out of una selves... Una win so that una go rest continue una idolatry... Mary naim create una god... My God is different [/size]

Go and learn what you claim to believe in.

italo: Go and learn what you claim to believe in.

You need the learning more than he does mate.

benalvino:
[size=28pt]Even if You and sycan make total crap out of una selves... Una win so that una go rest continue una idolatry... Mary naim create una god... My God is different [/size]

Dear benalvino, I believe I have treated you kindly in my words so far, you may consider doing same when you refer to me. Not for my sake though but for yours.

Consider Jesus on the cross bleeding, in pain, you claim He was just man there?

Syncan:


Dear benalvino, I believe I have treated you kindly in my words so far, you may consider doing same when you refer to me. Not for my sake though but for yours.

Consider Jesus on the cross dying, you claim He was just man there?

have i insulted you?
and i can see you comprehend non of my post

benalvino:

have i insulted you?
and i can see you comprehend non of my post

I have not said so. If you look back at your chat with Italo, you may wish to have changed some words.

All the same, I have been honest in my posts to you. I do not tell you what I thought ouy yestetday, I tell you what the church has taught for ages, that's why I said to read up on it. But to help me understand you, just give me an honest answer to the question above.

Syncan:

I have not said so. If you look back at your chat with Italo, you may wish to have changed some words.

All the same, I have been honest in my posts to you. I do not tell you what I thought ouy yestetday, I tell you what the church has taught for ages, that's why I said to read up on it. But to help me understand you, just give me an honest answer to the question above.

Not a single words changed... I have been explaining phil 2:6-9 from the start and still doing it... my words are thesame... Jesus Took the form of a man just as the bible says so he can die for us... Nothing changed... well Jesus was God he changed his nature so he can die... my point from start to now.

benalvino:

Not a single words changed... I have been explaining phil 2:6-9 from the start and still doing it... my words are thesame... Jesus Took the form of a man just as the bible says so he can die for us... Nothing changed... well Jesus was God he changed his nature so he can die... my point from start to now.

I ask again, at the cross, while he was bleeding and in pain and about to die, What was he? man, God, or both.