nuzo:

The nigerian situation is becoming more pathetic by the day. It looks almost irredeemable from all angles.

Day in day out, we hear of how people embezzle the public funds without being questioned. Those appointed to probe the embezzlers end up doing the same thing.
Corruption in the public and private institutions of the country.
Assassinations and assassination attempts.
No attempts to revitalize the fast decaying infrastructures like roads, railways, airline, schools, hospital and most importantly power generating plants. Our refineries are not even in the picture anymore.
Nothing is being done to tackle the ever rising unemployment rate.
Nothing is being done to rehabilitate, reorient and reconstruct the police force.
In most cases, one has to become a heartless wicked crook who will be willing to kill or cheat before you can have a bit of good life in nigeria.
The worst part is that Nigerians have become so used to being intimidated and pushed around by their leaders to the extent that they believe it's a normal life; the "will of god as most will say".
Everybody seem to have lost their common sense of reasoning.

I have been planning on returning home by january 2010 to continue contributing my quota to the nation building, but it seems nobody is working towards this. Its everyone for himself and his family.
With all these ills, I am about coming to a conclusion that my past present and future contributions may not make any difference to nation building, thereby abandoning this project and try to concentrate on my family alone.
On the other hand, while I was living in nigeria, I've never been used to watching things decay without aggressively voicing my opinion, be it to the government, the common man on the street, my friends and any member of my family.

How will I keep my eyes and mouth shut to these decays now that am even more exposed?

Permit me to boldly speak. If everyone gives up on Nigeria then would it be any surprise when things remain thesame and the current crop of people remain doing what they do? To be honest the more I speak to people in Nigeria the more I realise the arrogance people speaking from out of the country tend to habour (take it or leave it, just an observation). An arrogance that I might have once haboured which moves people to make sweeping and patronising comments, something that once noticed becomes irritating to continue reading. You want to make a change and you are willing to work towards achieving such a change, right? You are not alone for there are many out there who are doing thesame thing. When you say make a difference it seems you want to go into Nigeria and fix everything perhaps not realising that people exist in the country who are trying to do thesame thing, hence when you say things like 'you are not sure if you will really make any difference' it depends on how you see it. Do you consider making a difference to say 12 people as making an impact or would you see your ventures as a failure if you don't impact the lives of at least 1 million people?

At least you seem to be willing to be wanting to work towards doing something, the annoying thing however is what seems to be the school who would shout that the shoe hurts, give long sweeping and deceptively 'insightful' commentary into why the shoe hurts without ever willing to work towards doing anything to work towards changing things the way they can in their own individual capacity. So why the shock horror when complaining doesn't magically grow feet and do what needs to be done considering the leaders present? Some people might not share such a view but to each his own, as for me I know There Is Always Hope. Apart from working towards changing things via the constitution (e.g. freedom of information bill, allowing states generate their own power, allowing states run their own police, etc), if the government is to be ignored as many people want to do due to negligence, no political will, etc, there is still a lot of change that can be made by investing. There is a market hungry for qulaity things enjoyed outside the country. Imagine building a quality university hostel fit with amenities, etc. Imagine being able to run a dependable public transport service? Such things are still providing for people and the market is there to make good returns which you can simply reinvest.

If I had the capital I have always said I will Invest in an airline just to have the pleasure of crashing the cost of air travel in Nigeria and leading a deflation of overpriced air travel in the country. I hope your question about making a change was rhetorical because thats the only way it seems to make sense. Anyone can make a change if they are willing to back up rhetoric with genuine action. Over the years I have grown bored of computer debates and analysis which come up with thesame conclusion every single time (the people have to get involved) and yet the people are not getting involved then expect different? Can't we just for once as a people FOLLOW THROUGH on something? Just for once? Nothing will change even if the country is split if such an attitude remains. As for me, I won't be giving up on my home country anytime soon.

@labiyemmy:

@Nuzo


Take it easy, I can swear to you that things are not as bad as you have written in your opening missive, there are still many good things going on in Nigeria, it is not all gloom for the over 120 million people in the country, why not take a trip home and see how you can contribute? no matter how little? There is just no way you can keep away and still hope you can help, absolutely no way, there is no need giving up, because when things get better, where else do you gio to?

Every now and then, people tells us to contribute and come home. I do not know what area Nuzo is, however is Nigeria ready for his contribution? Are the facilities there needed for his contributions? I mentioned the other time how my field is severely under-developed back home and many people just don't get it.

ElRazur:

You reckon? Yet there are already Gun-shooting-Gun-slaying-Kidnapping-terrorising outfits right there. These people just shows how much people are fed up with the Govt. and they just want a share of the pie. People like MEND and co could possibly gather/drum support locally and have support from foreign powers enough to start a civil unrest in Nigeria.

Another example that will suggest otherwise on your views are the recent Religion violence. Remember it was more or less a case of Igbos tagging with Yorubas to fight back the hausas? You see the situation is really ripe for a civil unrest in Nigeria, we just need a catalyst of some kind.

Kidnappers - MEND or whatever you call them are not fighting for any freedom, they are thieves fighting for their pockets, religion violence is what you just called it, it is fighting for religion beleifs not for political reasons or gains.

ElRazur:

Every now and then, people tells us to contribute and come home. I do not know what area Nuzo is, however is Nigeria ready for his contribution? Are the facilities there needed for his contributions? I mentioned the other time how my field is severely under-developed back home and many people just don't get it.

How can a whole country not be ready for one man's little contribution? I dont get what your understanding of contribution is!

Nuzo, I feel your pain ooo. When I think of objective and intellectual redemption for Nigeria, I think of the population, the way people think in Nigeria and also act, and I say to my self: I'm only 22 and how many Nigerians think the way I do. Not 20 thousand will do. I look at the educational system and remember examination malpractices (pay to pass, read to know) and how lecturers see students as their ticket to a better life. It's hopeless. We lost. We still have the I'm better than you mentality, still competitive (negatively), still power hungry, still closed minded and still ignorant. We give  our collectivity to religion instead of community organizing. No sense of community at all just me and my family mentality. Oboy, I tire.

That was incoherent I know but I have to vent them as they come. Hopeless.

Topic

I have almost given up!

@labiyemmy

ur guess it as good as mine

elrazor is part of the wahala

@labiyemmy:

Kidnappers - MEND or whatever you call them are not fighting for any freedom, they are thieves fighting for their pockets, religion violence is what you just called it, it is fighting for religion beleifs not for political reasons or gains.

You are missing the point! For the purpose of the point I am making, MEND are fighting for what they perceive as injustice - I.e the removal of oil in the region without much benefit to the local people. Take it or leave it, that is actually a genuine point. Whether they are doing something else now it is a different point.

Religion violence in Nigeria is always about a cover for controlling resources and the ethnic tensions that comes up every now and then. I mentioned yesterday that during this so called "Religion violence" it is not uncommon to hear of how and Hausa man reportedly kills a "Yoruba Muslim" simply because they aint considered as their kind.

asha 80:

@Elrazur

Do you honestly think people from former eastern region will engage in another war after what happened to them the last time?

Asha, this is the place Elrazur is not riding along with reality.

asha 80:

@Nuzo and Busibodi
Until the different nationalities decide on how they are going to live and exist in the geographical nigeria then we will continue to be a laughing stock.

When are these nationalities going to decide on this?

ElRazur:

The question is are majority of Nigerians wanting change? Are majority of nigerian or your common man happy with the state of the nation? I suppose there lies your answer.

The answer is NO and therein lies my fears, confusion, shock and insecurities.

@labiyemmy:

@Nuzo


Take it easy, I can swear to you that things are not as bad as you have written in your opening missive, there are still many good things going on in Nigeria, it is not all gloom for the over 120 million people in the country, why not take a trip home and see how you can contribute? no matter how little? There is just no way you can keep away and still hope you can help, absolutely no way, there is no need giving up, because when things get better, where else do you gio to?

What a wonderful and optimistic human being you are. However, your submission that things are not that bad maybe born out of the fact that you have stayed long in nigeria that you have nothing to compare the situation to thereby believing that the mediocre things you see are perfect.
So that you should know, I visit nigeria regularly and have been opportune to see for myself how things have gotten bad.
Living in China opened my eyes to the extent that Im also beginning to come to a conclusion that any large black community is bound for failure (still waiting to be corrected on this point).

@labiyemmy:

How can a whole country not be ready for one man's little contribution? I dont get what your understanding of contribution is!

Sigh! **Slams head into palms**

Allow me to once again use myself as an example. I work in a specialized field - Biomedical sciences - This area is severely under-developed at home, to the point of non-existent. Now, if am to come home how can I do my bit when all the things I need are not readily available? Some of the Govt owned hospitals are not even kitted out with the basic machines, talk less of having the latests Analysers, or Assay machines etc.
There isn't constant power supply needed to even make these thing run effectively. Some samples requires storage at -40degrees or so. How do we pull this off?

You see Nigeria is not ready, because these things needed are not even in place. Will I come in and work in such environment? No I wont, I will be under-productive and my work wont make me feel fulfilled.

A lot of us away from home wants to come home, but these underlying problems aren't being sorted.

nuzo,
if u are still contemplating, am afraid u still have a long way to go. i am here to help u out. if there is anything u need to do now, it is" give up"
u have been in china, better remain there. do u have a wife of children inside nigeria? if yes, then plan to bring them out.
if u go to all the churches here in nigeria, 90% of the testimonies are as follows; visa at last, after been in the school of waiting, God has finally answered my prayers with a five yrs visa to usa, two yrs students visa, 3 yrs visa to the uk.
everyone rejoices over an opportunity to go into slavary abroad rather than remain in the type of freedom we have at home.

it is important that as many a possible that can denounce nigeria and give up here will be prefered as that will give us chance to know who has been sitting on our progress. some of us are jonah and we know when jonah enters a boat, movement is always obstructed.

nuzo:

Thanks for your compliments and advice on what to expect in future. However my brother, you will be so unfair if you fail to explain how most nigerians who are corrupt and cowardly will effect the so-called revolution. Or, are you saying that you've made an arrangement for the dutch and ghanians to come and do the revolution for us?

I am ever ready to participate in any peaceful revolution but have since found out that my nigerian brothers dont care a bit of that even though they've been pushed against and through the wall without reaction. They have accepted their fate as Jakumo suggested.

No man,It will be by Nigerians for Nigeria.
It takes an event or occurrence to trigger a spontaenous reaction cum revolution and for now let's all agree that our Goat has not being permanently pushed to the wall.
As I said Earlier, The Revolution might Make Or Mar Nigeria meaning it will have the permanent ability to Unite or Break the country for Good.
Either ways,let's Brace Up.

Can't help but chuckle at this post.

I wonder what the peeps in DRC, Zimbabwe, and Somalia feel about their own country.
Energy largely misdirected seems to be the problem here. Who says Nigeria is not on the path to better times?

will the pakista run away cuz of talaban

will the iraq not live their life cuz of sucidal bomber

the thing is some of these nigeria oversea are plain loser in the hide, when they come to nigeria they probaly lives in swamps and scanty house

chidichris:

nuzo,
if u are still contemplating, am afraid u still have a long way to go. i am here to help u out. if there is anything u need to do now, it is" give up"
u have been in china, better remain there. do u have a wife of children inside nigeria? if yes, then plan to bring them out.
if u go to all the churches here in nigeria, 90% of the testimonies are as follows; visa at last, after been in the school of waiting, God has finally answered my prayers with a five yrs visa to usa, two yrs students visa, 3 yrs visa to the uk.
everyone rejoices over an opportunity to go into slavary abroad rather than remain in the type of freedom we have at home.

it is important that as many a possible that can denounce nigeria and give up here will be prefered as that will give us chance to know who has been sitting on our progress. some of us are jonah and we know when jonah enters a boat, movement is always obstructed.

LOOOL. Your posts never cease to amuse.

@nuzo, not necessarily referring to you but I just wish if people wanted to give up on Nigeria they just did it and spared others the humour of some of the patronising reasons obtainable. You mean some people have NO transferrable skills? If we are to be honest anyone can make a difference, it depends on if we are actually willing to do so or make the sacrifice to commit selfless service that might not be received with fanfare or recognised with awards. If some are not willing to then fine, it is understandable, just spare everyone such award winning reasons like "I am too specialised to contribute", LOL.

Sky Blue:

LOOOL. Your posts never cease to amuse.

@nuzo, not necessarily referring to you but I just wish if people wanted to give up on Nigeria they just did it and spared others the humour of some of the patronising reasons obtainable. You mean some people have NO transferrable skills? If we are to be honest anyone can make a difference, it depends on if we are actually willing to do so or make the sacrifice to commit selfless service that might not be received with fanfare or recognised with awards. If some are not willing to then fine, it is understandable, just spare everyone such award winning reasons like "I am too specialised to contribute", LOL.

chidichris:

nuzo,
if u are still contemplating, am afraid u still have a long way to go. i am here to help u out. if there is anything u need to do now, it is" give up"
u have been in china, better remain there. do u have a wife of children inside nigeria? if yes, then plan to bring them out.
if u go to all the churches here in nigeria, 90% of the testimonies are as follows; visa at last, after been in the school of waiting, God has finally answered my prayers with a five yrs visa to usa, two yrs students visa, 3 yrs visa to the uk.
everyone rejoices over an opportunity to go into slavary abroad rather than remain in the type of freedom we have at home.

it is important that as many a possible that can denounce nigeria and give up here will be prefered as that will give us chance to know who has been sitting on our progress. some of us are jonah and we know when jonah enters a boat, movement is always obstructed.

Not married yet, though am seriously looking for my better half.
That being said, I will ask you the same question I asked Richy; how do I ferry almost an entire village across the "oke osimiri"? What will they be doing there? How are the elderly ones going to cope?

IFELEKE:

No man,It will be by Nigerians for Nigeria.
It takes an event or occurrence to trigger a spontaenous reaction cum revolution and for now let's all agree that our Goat has not being permanently pushed to the wall.
As I said Earlier, The Revolution might Make Or Mar Nigeria meaning it will have the permanent ability to Unite or Break the country for Good.
Either ways,let's Brace Up.

Knowing who nigerians are, what kind of events could possible trigger into a revolution? Havent we had such events countless times before?
For clarification sake, describe how this so-called exceptional event would look like so we can get ready.

Sky Blue:

LOOOL. Your posts never cease to amuse.

@nuzo, not necessarily referring to you but I just wish if people wanted to give up on Nigeria they just did it and spared others the humour of some of the patronising reasons obtainable. You mean some people have NO transferrable skills? If we are to be honest anyone can make a difference, it depends on if we are actually willing to do so or make the sacrifice to commit selfless service that might not be received with fanfare or recognised with awards. If some are not willing to then fine, it is understandable, just spare everyone such award winning reasons like "I am too specialised to contribute", LOL.

Even if I were Elrazur, I still wont take any offense to your statement.
However, I agree with him on this as he will be a complete waste if he ventures into nigeria where his skills cannot be harnessed.
Secondly, he didnt mention that he is seeking to be received with a fanfare and be recognized with awards. He simply stated that he will be practically useless to the nigerian nation if he goes in now.

When citizens come up with statements like this more often, then there is need to really look inward and see where the problem lies.
The only issue remains that, Nigeria, is enshrouded in darkness that likelihood of encountering the solution is slim. Our rulers have sworn to
run the country beyond six feet, not only that, their offsprings are waiting in the offing to continue from where they stopped. This is an
unbelievable country. A country where the same ''sect'' set of individuals have been ruling since independence.

Most annoying part remains that there is no solution in sight. It's a pity, really.

nuzo:

Not married yet, though am seriously looking for my better half.
That being said, I will ask you the same question I asked Richy; how do I ferry almost an entire village across the "oke osimiri"? What will they be doing there? How are the elderly ones going to cope?

Knowing who nigerians are, what kind of events could possible trigger into a revolution? Havent we had such events countless times before?
For clarification sake, describe how this so-called exceptional event would look like so we can get ready.

Even if I were Elrazur, I still wont take any offense to your statement.
However, I agree with him on this as he will be a complete waste if he ventures into nigeria where his skills cannot be harnessed.
Secondly, he didnt mention that he is seeking to be received with a fanfare and be recognized with awards. He simply stated that he will be practically useless to the nigerian nation if he goes in now.

Everyone who wanted to take a part of what I said could take what they wanted, was not necessarily completely referring to any one person, but groups exist. Brought up the whole fanfare issue with regards to what people might expect. I mean lets be honest, you see people sometimes speak as if people in Nigeria cannot think for themselves and the country is waiting for them to come and transform it. Sorry, just seems a tad self indulgent, it is not necessarily about being the person who changes the whole country and gets recognised but can be about what you as a person or as a group with others can do to contribute to improve things or make things better.

I found something someone said on another thread quite moving. Me and a fellow member mentioned we are working in a group who aim to contribute what we can and the poster said something along the lines of 'please where are you located, even if it is to sweep after meetings i will do'. I just felt touched by that statement because it encapsulated a frame of mind which was quite amicable. I mention that story because it represents a particular frame of mind. Doing what you can.

nuzo:

Even if I were Elrazur, I still wont take any offense to your statement.
However, I agree with him on this as he will be a complete waste if he ventures into nigeria where his skills cannot be harnessed.
Secondly, he didnt mention that he is seeking to be received with a fanfare and be recognized with awards. He simply stated that he will be practically useless to the nigerian nation if he goes in now.

It is quite clear to see how a debate disintegrate easily around here. In most debates here, people tend to forms into blocks! You have those who actually contribute to the actual debate at hand, you have those who opposes and have a different view, you have those who do nothing but derail and then you have those who are just plain bitter at their own existence.

In the light of above explanation, I wont even dignify his thin-veiled insults with a reply.

My area involves loads of training, and constant CPD. There is no way I will be able to do this things if am in Nigeria, many ignorant people are quick to miss this.  But anyway, back to the original point that lead to making that post - Nigeria is truly not ready for some us that are here and may want to come home.

ElRazur:

It is quite clear to see how a debate disintegrate easily around here. In most debates here, people tend to forms into blocks! You have those who actually contribute to the actual debate at hand, you have those who opposes and have a different view, you have those who do nothing but derail and then you have those who are just plain bitter at their own existence.

In the light of above explanation, I wont even dignify his thin-veiled insults with a reply.

My area involves loads of training, and constant CPD. There is no way I will be able to do this things if am in Nigeria, many ignorant people are quick to miss this.  But anyway, back to the original point that lead to making that post - Nigeria is truly not ready for some us that are here and may want to come home.

LOL. If you took offence at my post or took it as an insult then I apolgise that you did, however what I said I still stand by it and perhaps I might have said it a different way but ultimately the conclusion would have probably been thesame. If you however feel labelling me as "bitter" or whatever then that is up to you, really don't get riled up or bothered by such. Please feel free to continue ignoring my posts. Have a nice day and God Bless  .

When I read these kind of topics and people saying they cant contribute their own quota in their own country, I just wonder what happens in other countries, a Nigerian comes online, looks at his/her min, wants to say something and the best thing he/she can find to say about his country are:

Nigeria is a failed country

Nigeria is doomed

I want to give up on Nigeria

I want to denounce my Nigerian citizenship

Nigeria is a crazed country

etc

I then realy sit down to think deep, and my usual conclusion is this, noone will do it for us, leave it or take it, where ever you are, you are still a Nigerian. South Africa has the worst case of hooliganism and crime, but they never talk about their country the way we do here. They recently elected the most controversiol politician to lead them, a man whose political history is fraught with so many negative issues, but South Africans will never write so sadly against him, why are we so different in Nigeria? Are we the only people who travel to see what happens overseas?

ElRazur

Please do not confuse or mix up coming to Nigeria to work for your own economic gain as the same thing as contributing your own quota to the development of Nigeria, these are two very different issues, if you pack your bag and come home to Nigeria to work, earn a living and continue to run down Nigeria as you do, then, it is not the same as contributing to any development, I hope you understand this.

Nuzo; my contribution is not to give up on nigeria yet, things wont continue like this forever, the dynamics are fast changing, it may not be plain for all to see, but lot more people are becoming genuinely interested in the affairs of the motherland although a large proportion for the goodygoody, It's my believe that solving the problem of nigeria just require 3 self less leaders, and before you know it , change would have come, case in point is fashola in lagos, just 1 man, have within 2years has inspired renewal & so much hope amongst lagosians, If only we can get such visionary and focused leadership and the top of the country, then we are on our way to greatness, cause we have all the ingredients required to make a great nation, You should read Dele Momodu's article "In search of Our own Obama" never use to take him serious as a political columnist but this article inspires hope and possibilities.

@labiyemmy:

When I read these kind of topics and people saying they cant contribute their own quota in their own country, I just wonder what happens in other countries, a Nigerian comes online, looks at his/her min, wants to say something and the best thing he/she can find to say about his country are:

Nigeria is a failed country

Nigeria is doomed

I want to give up on Nigeria

I want to denounce my Nigerian citizenship

Nigeria is a crazed country

etc

I then realy sit down to think deep, and my usual conclusion is this, noone will do it for us, leave it or take it, where ever you are, you are still a Nigerian.[b] South Africa has the worst case of hooliganism and crime, but they never talk about their country the way we do here. [/b]They recently elected the most controversiol politician to lead them, a man whose political history is fraught with so many negative issues, but South Africans will never write so sadly against him, why are we so different in Nigeria? Are we the only people who travel to see what happens overseas?

I see you didn't bother to reply to my post! You wanted an explanation and you had it, now where is your reply?

As for the bit I highlighted, this is a common misconception. As with human nature, we only see the one way traffic not the other side. South Africans probably are doing similar things one way or the other, I suppose you do not use the equivalent of South Africa's forum to here?

Also, while crime and hooliganism may be rife in SA, how about we make a comparison of each nation so as to put things into perspective? We are bigger than SA, so it is normal to have more Nigerians talking about our issues than that of SA. Also the ethnics problems we have is fair to say it is bigger than that of SA, Just a thought.

Those that beat the drums of war, have obviously never been in one.  I advise you watch a documentary on (better still take a trip to) one of the war torn African countries, and I am sure any sane man would be against a war Nigeria.

While saddening, I am less surprised when Nigerians who live in a foreign land sing war songs, as they are sure they would be far away from the consequences. What baffles me most, is when those that live in Nigeria join the chant. When a mad man chooses to dance naked in the village square, his neighbor should not adopt his antics.

For me solving the problem of Nigeria is not about civil war or revolution. Rather it is about each and every one contributing the little they can towards making it better.
Its not about what Nigeria has done for me, but for me to look back and be able to say this is what I have done.
Its not about holding a political office or being at the head of any establishment, but me doing whatever I can to improve the standard of living of one or more Nigerians
Like fela said, 'omolanke pusher get power over im omolanke'. I only intend to use my omolanke to better the life of another
Where I live is irrelevant, as I only focus on finding little opportunities to make the life of another Nigerian better (be it home or abroad)
I do not see the point in asking "what do I get in return?", as such selfish thinking got us into the deep sh*t we are in.
It does not require any major changes in my way of life or sacrifices on my part, only that I am mentally ready to seize such opportunities when they arise.
Examples,
- A friend who is a doctor abroad, helps people in naija with the purchase of prescription drugs that are often scarce or adulterated in naija, at no extra cost.
- A friend  is taking up an academic position at a university abroad. He plans to take two or more Nigerian students into his group for phd studies (hopefully with funding).
- A friend in Naija provides pipe borne water for free to members of his community.
The hope is that bit by bit we get rid of the selfish mentality that seems to be so ingrained in our society, and has brought us nothing good, and from their move onwards to better things.
I might be wrong in my thinking, but I dont see the harm in trying.

For those that would rather stay away, as Nigeria has done nothing for them, I only hope they will be upright and honorable enough, that they  (and their descendants) stay away forever, even if Nigeria changes for the better. I deem it an instance of daylight theft,  if one, whose parents abandoned Nigeria, feels they deserve a part in the inheritance when things turn for the better. This I doubt as when the yam is being cooked, all are unaware; but at the sound of pestle pounding yam, all rush to join the festivities

Sky Blue:

Everyone who wanted to take a part of what I said could take what they wanted, was not necessarily completely referring to any one person, but groups exist. Brought up the whole fanfare issue with regards to what people might expect. I mean lets be honest, you see people sometimes speak as if people in Nigeria cannot think for themselves and the country is waiting for them to come and transform it. Sorry, just seems a tad self indulgent, it is not necessarily about being the person who changes the whole country and gets recognised but can be about what you as a person or as a group with others can do to contribute to improve things or make things better.

I found something someone said on another thread quite moving. Me and a fellow member mentioned we are working in a group who aim to contribute what we can and the poster said something along the lines of 'please where are you located, even if it is to sweep after meetings i will do'. I just felt touched by that statement because it encapsulated a frame of mind which was quite amicable. I mention that story because it represents a particular frame of mind. Doing what you can.

Unfortunately, that seems to be the case, otherwise, what could 140 million nigerians living in nigeria waiting for for before they think of how to transform the nation.
On the second emboldened, will it make any sense to you if Elrazur; a professional suggested to come, sweep and mopp the floor after your meeting?
Were you happy that the guy you mentioned was contributing to nation building or happy as a typical nigerian who take pleasure in seeing people serve them. . . just curious bro.

Sky Blue:

LOL. If you took offence at my post or took it as an insult then I apolgise that you did, however what I said I still stand by it and perhaps I might have said it a different way but ultimately the conclusion would have probably been thesame. If you however feel labelling me as "bitter" or whatever then that is up to you, really don't get riled up or bothered by such. Please feel free to continue ignoring my posts. Have a nice day and God Bless  .

What gentleman you are.

@labiyemmy:

ElRazur

Please do not confuse or mix up coming to Nigeria to work for your own economic gain as the same thing as contributing your own quota to the development of Nigeria, these are two very different issues, if you pack your bag and come home to Nigeria to work, earn a living and continue to run down Nigeria as you do, then, it is not the same as contributing to any development, I hope you understand this.

Where is your logic? Seriously, where is it ?

Where have I stated I am in it for the money? Or I'm guessing you are just making assumptions?

No I do not understand your point. How am I running down Nigeria ?

Are you expecting me to give up my career and come down and be useless Is that what you want

I really do not get you at all, perhaps someone may help shed light on your logic.

biina:

Those that beat the drums of war, have obviously never been in one.  I advise you watch a documentary on (better still take a trip to) one of the war torn African countries, and I am sure any sane man would be against a war Nigeria.

While saddening, I am less surprised when Nigerians who live in a foreign land sing war songs, as they are sure they would be far away from the consequences. What baffles me most, is when those that live in Nigeria join the chant. When a mad man chooses to dance naked in the village square, his neighbor should not adopt his antics.

This is a debate. Please feel free to come direct at me. I detest "indirect talk". I never "beat the drum of war" I merely highlighted a possible outcome given the situation at hand. I did also gave more reasons as to why I believe a war may be the solution. To defend a point is not the same as asking people to go to war.

Dude I am kinda getting tired of having to rephrase myself with you every now and then.

ElRazur

I am happy you dont understand what I have said, it just brings me to the conclusion of what I have said all along.

I asked you what your idea of contributing to the country means, and you replied, you cant contribute anything to Nigeria because the work you do is not developed in Nigeria, hence you cant come to Nigeria to work. And I replied you, contributing to Nigeria is not the same as coming to Nigeria to work, these are two different things, people who contributed to the well being and growth and development of Nigeria never did so by working within their proffession, there are so many ways these can be done without necessarily thinking alongst your proffession "that is not available in Nigeria" hence you cant contribute in any way talk.

ElRazur

I am appaled at the way you argued, everyone is saying something in here without mentioning or directing what they write to you, you thn quote part of what they write and ask them to point to you where you have said what you have quoted, it makes me laugh realy.

ElRazur:

This is a debate. Please feel free to come direct at me. I detest "indirect talk". I never "beat the drum of war" I merely highlighted a possible outcome given the situation at hand. I did also gave more reasons as to why I believe a war may be the solution. To defend a point is not the same as asking people to go to war.

Dude I am kinda getting tired of having to rephrase myself with you every now and then.

and you are so sure the comment was directed at you, even when you cant find a reason for why?
I think you give yourself too much credit.