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Re: The Bible Stands by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:48am On Jul 15, 2009 |
This Book (the Bible) will keep you from sin, and Sin will keep you from this Book. Reading and confessing the words of this book will: Terrify the devil, Stupefy the rebellious, Mystify the world, Pacify the critics, Ratify the covenant, Edify the church, Magnify the Word, and Glorify the Lord! Evidence are how the skeptics on this forum have been rattled by the power of this book. See how their noses, horns and tails are growing by the day. |
Re: The Bible Stands by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:53am On Jul 15, 2009 |
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. -- Hebrews 4:12 |
Re: The Bible Stands by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:11pm On Jul 15, 2009 |
The order of the appearances of Jesus Christ and who He appeared to is as follows: [list] [li]Mary. John 20:10-18[/li] [/list] [list] [li]Mary and women. Matthew 28:1-10[/li] [/list] [list] [li]Peter. 1 Corinthians 15:5[/li] [/list] [list] [li]Two disciples. Luke 24:13-35[/li] [/list] [list] [li]Ten apostles. Luke 24:36-49; John 20:19-23[/li] [/list] [list] [li]Eleven apostles. John 20:24-31[/li] [/list] [list] [li]Seven apostles. John 21[/li] [/list] [list] [li]All apostles. Matthew 28:16-20; Mark 16:14-18[/li] [/list] [list] [li]500 brethren. 1 Corinthians 15:6[/li] [/list] [list] [li]James. 1 Corinthians 15:7[/li] [/list] [list] [li]All apostles. Acts.1:4-8[/li] [/list] [list] [li]Paul. Acts. 9:1-9; 1 Corinthians 15:8[/li] [/list] (The Evidence Bible) |
Re: The Bible Stands by Krayola(m): 12:36pm On Jul 15, 2009 |
OLAADEGBU: Mark (1st of the Gospels), did not originally include the appearance of Jesus. It was added later. Look in ur Bible for the footnote. this is what it says (check yours). "16:8 The most reliable early manuscripts conclude the Gospel of Mark at verse 8. Other manuscripts include various endings to the Gospel. " |
Re: The Bible Stands by Tudor6(f): 1:01pm On Jul 15, 2009 |
OLAADEGBU: i laugh! WHAT A LAUGH! YOU CHRISTIANS NO GO LAUGH ME DIE!! First you say there are no contradictions and the divine authour has his finger prints making the word "virtually uncompromisable". . . . Now you claim he did add compromises and contradictions in order to "snare" unbelievers! OLADEEGBU you no go kill us ooo Why would a loving good who wants everybody to be saved deliberate set traps for unbelievers in his word?? If god can come down to die for us, why would he be wicked in sabotaging himself (the word is god)? oladeegbu these questions scream for answers! |
Re: The Bible Stands by JIL(m): 2:10pm On Jul 15, 2009 |
why would he be wicked in sabotaging himself (the word is god)? Huh @Tudor, Why don't you ask your mother for answers to these questions. She's a christian isn't she? She's more likely to talk sense into the fool she raised. |
Re: The Bible Stands by Tudor6(f): 2:14pm On Jul 15, 2009 |
JIL:well i asked her and she hasn't no answers. Professor JIL any clue? |
Re: The Bible Stands by Tudor6(f): 2:17pm On Jul 15, 2009 |
Quote from : JIL This is funny! |
Re: The Bible Stands by JIL(m): 2:28pm On Jul 15, 2009 |
well i asked her and she hasn't no answers. Professor JIL any clue? I think she refused to tell you because she knows that you are so dumb that you wouldn't be able to comprehend it. Roses are Red. Violets are Blue. Atheists are Fools! Don't look at the funny side rather look at the factual side. |
Re: The Bible Stands by Tudor6(f): 2:32pm On Jul 15, 2009 |
JIL: Err actually because she's DEAD. i still laugh! |
Re: The Bible Stands by JIL(m): 2:49pm On Jul 15, 2009 |
Err actually because she's DEAD. Wasnt aware. My sincere apologies. As a christian, I truely believe she's in heaven with the Lord. Your unbelief notwithstanding. |
Re: The Bible Stands by Tudor6(f): 3:01pm On Jul 15, 2009 |
JIL:Wouldn't we all love to believe that. . . But the sad reality is she's gone and gone forever. |
Re: The Bible Stands by Krayola(m): 5:15pm On Jul 15, 2009 |
excerpts from . . Daniel L. Migliore's Faith Seeking Understanding "An Introduction to Christian theology" |
Re: The Bible Stands by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:56am On Jul 16, 2009 |
This is the confession of a man of God who said: "I am going to tell you some things about my father that will make him look bad. He regularly left my mother to fend for herself. I was once horrified to hear that he deliberately killed a helpless animal. Not only that, but he hit me (often). Here's the information that's missing: "The reason he left my mum during the day was to work to earn money to take care of her and their children. He killed the animal because it had been run over by a car and was suffering. He regularly chastened me because he loved me enough to teach me right from wrong (I was a brat). Portions of the Bible that "make God look bad" merely reveal that we lack understanding. I never once questioned my dad's integrity, because I trusted him. (Mark 10:15)." The analogy above sums up the reason why He has "hidden" things from the "wise and prudent" and "revealed them to babes" (Luke 10:21), purposely choosing foolish things to confound the wise (1 Cor.1:27). -- The Evidence Bible |
Re: The Bible Stands by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:02am On Jul 16, 2009 |
"Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came to the selpulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them." -- Luke 24:1 There seems to be a contradiction as to who arrived first at the tomb. However, there is no contradiction when the Gospels are read in harmony. When the women arrived at the edge of the garden, they looked and saw that the stone had been rolled back from the tomb. Mary concluded that the body had been stolen and ran back to Peter and John in Jerusalem. The other women continued to the tomb, and went on inside where they encountered the angels. So, who said that there are contradictions in the Bible? (The Evidence Bible) |
Re: The Bible Stands by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:20am On Jul 16, 2009 |
This is what John McRay had to say about the historical accuracy of the Bible: "Given the large portion of the New Testament written by him, its extremely significant that Luke has been established to be a scrupulously accurate historian, even in the smallest details. One prominent archaelologist carefully examined Luke's references to thirty-two countries, fifty-four cities and nine islands, finding not a single mistake." |
Re: The Bible Stands by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:37am On Jul 16, 2009 |
Archaeology confirms the accuracy of the Bible: Following the 1993 discovery in Israel of a stone containing the inscriptions "House of David" and "King of Israel," Time magazine stated, "This writing -- dated to the 9th century B.C., only a century after David's reign -- described a victory by a neighbouring king over the Israelites . . . The skeptics' claim that David never existed is now hard to defend." -- Time, December 18, 1995 |
Re: The Bible Stands by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:50am On Jul 16, 2009 |
A hidden burial chamber, dating to the first century was discovered in 1990 two miles from the Temple Mount. One bore the bones of a man in his 60s, with the inscription "Yehosef bar Qayafa" -- meaning "Joseph, son of Caiaphas." Experts believe this was Caiaphas, the high priest of Jerusalem, who was involved in the arrest of Jesus, interrogated Him and handed Him over to Pontius Pilate for execution. A few decades earlier, excavations at Caesarea Maritama, the ancient seat of Roman government in Judea, uncovered a stone slab whose complete inscription may have read: "Pontius Pilate, the prefect of Judea, has dedicated to the people of Caesarea a temple in honour of Tiberius." The discovery is truly significant, establishing that the man depicted in the Gospels as Judea's Roman governor had the authority ascribed to him by the Gospel writers. -- Jeffery L. Sheler, "Is the Bible True?" Reader's Digest, June 2000 |
Re: The Bible Stands by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:08am On Jul 16, 2009 |
Scientific facts recorded in the Bible. For ages, scientists believed in a geocentric view of the universe. The difference between night and day were believed to be caused by the sun revolving around the earth. Today, we know that the earth's rotation on its axis is responsible for the suns "rising and setting." But 4,000 or more years ago, it was written, "Have you commanded the morning since your days; and caused the day spring [dawn] to know his place? . . . It [the earth] is turned as clay to the seal" (Job 38:12,14). The picture here is of a clay vessel being turned or rotated upon the potter's wheel. This is an accurate analogy of the earth's rotation. -- The Evidence Bible |
Re: The Bible Stands by Tudor6(f): 11:41am On Jul 16, 2009 |
Scientific fallacies and falsehood recorded in the bible. Genesis 30 : 37 - 39, 41- 42. Even an slowpoke knows you can't produce stripped and spotted goats or lambs by placing fruits and stripped sticks in their drinking water. . . Obviously the slowpoke who wrote the bible didn't understand genetics. . . |
Re: The Bible Stands by debosky(m): 11:49am On Jul 16, 2009 |
Tudór: You cannot comprehend that God decided to BLESS Jacob regardless of his uncle's tricks - that was the reason why the flock gave birth to the type that they did, because of a divine blessing upon him not because of the poles. The poles likely served as a faith aid for Jacob more than anything else, showing God that he believed he would prosper regardless of his uncle's deception. |
Re: The Bible Stands by Krayola(m): 12:19pm On Jul 16, 2009 |
Olaagbedu . . the stuff u are posting is all false. It's nonsense. where do u find this stuff? If there is one thing Luke was definitely not, it was an accurate historian. |
Re: The Bible Stands by DonFreaky(m): 12:37pm On Jul 16, 2009 |
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Re: The Bible Stands by DonFreaky(m): 12:37pm On Jul 16, 2009 |
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Re: The Bible Stands by Tudor6(f): 12:39pm On Jul 16, 2009 |
debosky:Oh shut up! What the f@#k is this? Faith aid The passage clearly shows that it was because of the sticks and stripped rods that the spotted goats/lambs were produced. Faith aid my arse! where was it mentioned in the scriptures that the sticks and rods were "faith aid"- mordern day word of faith movement just sit in your houses and invent jargons! Time and time again on NL when christians see a scientific fact coincidentally predicted by the bible, y'all say the bible is scientifically accurate but when we show scientific inaccuracies you claimit was as a result of a "miracle" or "blessing of god" -how much more dumb escapist can one get?? |
Re: The Bible Stands by debosky(m): 12:49pm On Jul 16, 2009 |
Tudór: Even so, did the stick themselves cause the change or what they represented? Did Moses' rod part the Red Sea or was it as a result of his obeying the instruction to stretch the rod that the Sea parted on God's command? Hebrews 11:29 It was by faith that the people of Israel went right through the Red Sea as though they were on dry ground. But when the Egyptians tried to follow, they were all drowned. Jacob was blessed because of this declaration from God: “I am the Lord, the God of your grandfather Abraham, and the God of your father, Isaac. The ground you are lying on belongs to you. I am giving it to you and your descendants. 14 Your descendants will be as numerous as the dust of the earth! They will spread out in all directions—to the west and the east, to the north and the south. And all the families of the earth will be blessed through you and your descendants. 15 What’s more, I am with you, and I will protect you wherever you go. One day I will bring you back to this land. I will not leave you until I have finished giving you everything I have promised you.” Genesis 28:13-15 Hebrews 11:20 20 It was by faith that Isaac promised blessings for the future to his sons, Jacob and Esau. Obedience to instruction/exhibition of faith is what leads to blessing. PS - a 'faith aid' is not really alien to the bible, people asked for 'signs' from God before acts came to pass, and using things like Lamb's blood was a 'sign' to protect families against the plague of Egypt. What will always hang up atheists like yourself is a failure to look at issues in context. |
Re: The Bible Stands by toneyb: 12:50pm On Jul 16, 2009 |
Tudór: Is there any scientific fact that the bible has ever predicted? The bible has NEVER made any scientific prediction last time i checked, gravity was not pridicted by the bible, DNA was not predicted by the bible, computers, electricity, cars, internet, elements, NOTHING scientific has ever been predicted by the bible only that humans can survive inside a fish for 3 days or that the sun moves round the earth those are biblical science. Conventional physics, chemistry and biology has nothing to do with the little concept of physics chemistry and biology that is written in the bible because conventional science has shown that the little concept of science written in the bible is wrong. |
Re: The Bible Stands by toneyb: 12:52pm On Jul 16, 2009 |
debosky: I respect your position, but the problem is that you guys are looking at the issue from very different perspectives. You believe that those events actually happened while he doesn't because there is no evidence for any of them like the exodus for example there is absolutely nothing that supports the biblical narrative, no archeological or historical evidence to back it up. So guess you understand the point he is trying to make. |
Re: The Bible Stands by debosky(m): 1:24pm On Jul 16, 2009 |
toneyb: I would challenge the assertion in bold, but I do agree archeological experts are not convinced about it's existence. Individuals have sought to find proof by themselves, and while I do not vouch for their authenticity or veracity, it does indicate there might be 'evidence' not fully explored yet. http://www.arkdiscovery.com/red_sea_crossing.htm http://www.creativeministry.org/article.php?id=124 |
Re: The Bible Stands by Tudor6(f): 1:30pm On Jul 16, 2009 |
debosky: Moses was supposedly commanded to stretch out the rod by god. Where did we see jacob being commanded to place the stripped sticks in their drinking water?? Jacob clearly put those fruits and rods because he thought it was technology not because of "faith" or "commandment" i.e it narrated to look like it was on his own accord.- shows the bible is fake.
rubbish! Since he was blessed because of this promise why are poor and cheated jews not producing goats and lambs with stripped sticks today
Where is it written "by faith jacob produced spotted goats with sticks"?? Where did we see jacob being commanded to strip sticks and rods before we even get to obedience
How is this crap relevant to jacob's story?? Did he ask for any sign what context?? Is it the one invented by you or the other 30,000 different contexts invented by different christian sects?? |
Re: The Bible Stands by toneyb: 2:11pm On Jul 16, 2009 |
debosky: Again I respect your position and objectivity, you have said what I was about to say, any bias individual out to find "evidence" for his/her self with regards to this kind of issue will find such "evidence" the other link talks about the cave of moses found in saudi arabia and they some how believe that is an "evidence" for the exodus . When talking about evidence I am talking about the kind of evidence that will show that over 2 million people resided in the desert of the sinai peninsula. Over two million people wandering in such a desert ALONE for 40 years will leave some kind of evidence at least, yet no such evidence have been found. Archaeological research has found no evidence that the Sinai desert ever hosted, or could have hosted, millions of people. There is nothing in the egyptian records that shows that the jews were ever enslaved in egypt in the first place. Nothing about the egyptian record talks about any of the plagues mentioned in the bible even though the people were very well known for keeping records. The population of egypt at that time was about 6 million or so according to historians and 2.5 million(whom the bible claims are the people that do all the work) people leaving egypt will leave a devastating effect on the egyptian economy yet NO such evidence have been found. The bible fails to mention the name of any of the egyptian pharaohs (it only refers to them as pharaohs) or the one whose daughter the bible says adopted moses or any member of his family at that time which is very telling. Jewish archeologist like Israel Finkelstein, Ze'ev Herzog and William G. Dever, regard the biblical Exodus as non-historical because there is no evidence to back it up. |
Re: The Bible Stands by debosky(m): 2:41pm On Jul 16, 2009 |
toneyb: Again, I am not claiming to be an Egyptian Anthropologist or historian with definitive knowledge of what happened where and when, but there are publications out there challenging the mainstream opinion of the biblical Exodus. I do not expect everything to be clearly and neatly explained, but there is historical evidence that might point to a mass exodus from Egypt. Again, as with all historical accounts, this may be looked at from different viewpoints depending on the writer. I give you an excerpt: This exit from Egypt by the Hyksos probably included the Israelites as well. The story of the Exodus is most likely bases on the expulsion of the Hyksos from Egypt, for there is no other record of any mass exit from Egypt (Robertson 1990, 36; Halpern 1994, 89-96; Redford 1897, 150). The evidence seems to fit well with Josephus' account. Although the Egyptians saw the expulsion of the Hyksos as a great military victory, the Israelites viewed this as a great salvation victory for them. T[b]his seems similar to other events recorded in ancient history where both sides claim a great victory.[/b] Ramses II battled with the Hittites and almost lost his life, yet he calls this a great victory, but so do the Hittites. In reality it was a stalemate, so they both signed a treaty http://www.bibleandscience.com/archaeology/exodus.htm |
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