Msauza:

Yet , you seem to forget that Nigeria on its own struggles to maintain stable democracy. No wonder their intervention in Africa is this minimal because they are afraid of being asked if their house is in order. SA remains the only true democracy in Africa.

SA is a democracy yet fails to recognise and support the democratic will expressed by majority of Ivoriens? Clearly you resort to stu.pidity when smacked with pure truth!

"Truth is treason in the empire of lies." George Orwell

NEWS: SUDANESE PRESIDENT OMAR AL BASHAR ARRIVES AND RECIEVED IN NIGERIA DESPITE ICCJ ARREST WARRANT AS HRW CRY FOUL. DEBATE ONGOING IN SOME RADIO STATIONS AND NIGERIANS SPEAK TO SUPPORT HIS VISIT, ASK'S ICCJ TO ARREST HIM IN SUDAN. NOTE: SOUTH AFRICA, CAR, UGANDA, RWANDA ALL PLEDGED TO ARREST HIM IN CONTRAST TO AU's DECISION. WHAT DO YOU THINK?

Donian007: NEWS: SUDANESE PRESIDENT OMAR AL BASHAR ARRIVES AND RECIEVED IN NIGERIA DESPITE ICCJ ARREST WARRANT AS HRW CRY FOUL. DEBATE ONGOING IN SOME RADIO STATIONS AND NIGERIANS SPEAK TO SUPPORT HIS VISIT, ASK'S ICCJ TO ARREST HIM IN SUDAN. NOTE: SOUTH AFRICA, CAR, UGANDA, RWANDA ALL PLEDGED TO ARREST HIM IN CONTRAST TO AU's DECISION. WHAT DO YOU THINK?

nothing is going to happen

Msauza:
No wonder their intervention in Africa is this minimal because they are afraid of being asked if their house is in order.

dude even when we were under military rule, we restored democracy in others. Our influence runs deep that even shangarai shuned SA and came to abuja to seek support for their election.

Very soon we'll be giving your president orders. Just wait and see

chris365:

dude even when we were under military rule, we restored democracy in others. Our influence runs deep that even shangarai shuned SA and came to abuja to seek support for their election.

Very soon we'll be giving your president orders. Just wait and see

his definition of democracy is fine buildings

Donian007: NEWS: SUDANESE PRESIDENT OMAR AL BASHAR ARRIVES AND RECIEVED IN NIGERIA DESPITE ICCJ ARREST WARRANT AS HRW CRY FOUL. DEBATE ONGOING IN SOME RADIO STATIONS AND NIGERIANS SPEAK TO SUPPORT HIS VISIT, ASK'S ICCJ TO ARREST HIM IN SUDAN. NOTE: SOUTH AFRICA, CAR, UGANDA, RWANDA ALL PLEDGED TO ARREST HIM IN CONTRAST TO AU's DECISION. WHAT DO YOU THINK?

Dem no well. Arrest a president of a soverign country. That's an act of war na.

If ICC wants to arrest him they should head to Sudan or wait for chicken south africa to do that when he manages to step foot there.

Check;

http://www.paramountgroup.biz/en/capabilities/land-systems

I am still wondering why it was only a South African Beeld newspaper that reported a phantom battle between the SANDF and M23 rebels whereas the only news available in the past 2 - 3 days is of fighting between the DRC Military and M23 rebels in Goma. Can AndrewZA and SAEngine please provide independent sources for your translated SANDF propaganda urgently. SANDF seems to have patented the art of fighting and killing GHOSTS!

South Africa is a true democracy established by Nelson Mandela. Not just fancy buildings.

Msauza: South Africa is a true democracy established by Nelson Mandela. Not just fancy buildings.

Really? Now take back your notebook and go sit down and write something more sensible!

NaijaPikinGidi:

Really? Now take back your notebook and go sit down and write something more sensible!

The truth is Nigeria is still struggling to achieve true democracy.

Gun boat of NA

Msauza:

Yet , you seem to forget that Nigeria on its own struggles to maintain stable democracy. No wonder their intervention in Africa is this minimal because they are afraid of being asked if their house is in order. SA remains the only true democracy in Africa.

wow ,you sure do know how to dodge a question,are you a politician?

it seems as if the navy brass have approved the design of the sister ship to andoni,it will be 7meters longer.
http://www.nigerianpilot.com/nigerian-navy-to-build-another-warship/

The paramount Air products:

http://www.paramountgroup.biz/en/capabilities/aerospace

NIGERIA IS A PSEUDO DEMOCRACY.
Changing looters is not a democracy, rigging elections is not a democracy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVcIFa8Wdgw&feature=share

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmzZBcP2z4o&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3XplOA8d6Y&feature=player_embedded

Msauza:

The truth is Nigeria is still struggling to achieve true democracy.

Don't you ever get tired of being STU.PID?

Fynline: Gun boat of NA

These boats are made by Mondant defence. An indigenous vessel manufacturing firm.

Henry120:

I really, really want to accept this as fact, but to be honest, I can't. If you had said a SUB, that I would concour with since nigerian navy personnel had a couple of years (2-3years) back under-gone submarine training in pakistan.

Yes, separate account for impromptu funding exists. However, what are our immediate threats? I'd list them : terrorism/ islamic insurgency
Piracy/ oil bunkering
Continent wide Peacekeeping

Which of these require an above 4 billion dollars procurement of an AIrcraft carrier for? Do we live in the same region with IRAN? NO!! Pakistan? NO!!, India? NO!!! Egypt? NO!!! North/ south korea? NO!! Russia? NO!!!
Who are our neighbours, cameroun, togo, benin, ghana. Lagos state has a GDP that is bigger than each and every one of those countries.

Which leaves us with PIRACY, most piracy attacks occur of the coast of bayelsa, delta state. The navy has established an Air mobility group FOB in warri, another in bayelsa. It makes absolute sense to say the navy are going to receive 12-15 helicopters. Abi, do you pursue pirates with Aircraft carriers, when you have an Air mobility base, one in warri and another in bayelsa.

Would a country that flies 12 F-7 jets, wake up one morning and sign agreements for the purchase of an aircraft carrier? No way man.


Don't you know that if President GEJ does that, he would be impeached.

Our current needs are COIN based fighter jets (SU-25 frog foot), more MRAPS to replace our toyota hilux (soft skin), light attack helicopters, additional OPV's for the navy, helicopters and Frigates etc etc .......... Not an above 4 billion dollar waste of money on an aircraft carrier.

I'm a patriot, but I'm not buying this story.

I think u're basing ur arguement on Nigeria's current security threat to judge procurement of an expensive aircraft carrier.
Yes its freaking expensive.I am not fully backing the possibility of getting it soon.the govt still needs strong conviction to approve such a huge spending.
If you argue that Nigeria is living peacefully among friendly-non conflict states which automatically means she isn't under any threat except for the current wave of piracy,islamic militancy/terrorism.she needs not embark on a mission for an aircraft carrier.I can argue also that we don't need any SUB cause the SUBs are useless in any naval drill in this part of the continent.
I also noted that Nigeria is basing the military in the global direction.she is currently fighting to beat out more powerful militaries and be ranked above them.
No nation empowers its military without putting in future possibilties of external threats.
The more powerful any military is attracts natural envy.
The platform isn't a waste of resources because it isn't meeting our immediate needs.it is there for future advancements.
It probably won't be engaged after its first performance exercise but it at least puts it on the map that the Nigerian Navy got its aircraft carrier.that would boost Nigeria's superiority over its african competitors.

zetdee: NIGERIA IS A PSEUDO DEMOCRACY.
Changing looters is not a democracy, rigging elections is not a democracy.

Substitute the words LOOTERS and RIGGING with ZUMA and ANC respectively. You are so lost inside your porous behind!!

Msauza: South Africa is a true democracy established by Nelson Mandela. Not just fancy buildings.

my friend will you sharaap already if you don't have anything reasonable to say.

your hypocritical democrazy that supports tyrants and dictators, cries foul when Nigeria overrides you in deposing them.

you've got no influence in Africa and we run Zimbabwe right under your nose

: http://envisionnigeria.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&catid=10&id=1861&Itemid=136

http://www.zimbabweprimeminister.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=742:pm-tsvangirai-meets-gabon-nigeria-presidents&catid=30:prime-minister-issues&Itemid=88

our democracy may not be as strong as yours, but we run this continent militarily and politically while you play catch up

Nigerian BTR in sudan

Nigerian troops in mali


Nigerian troops in timbuktu mali

zetdee: NIGERIA IS A PSEUDO DEMOCRACY.
Changing looters is not a democracy, rigging elections is not a democracy.

Back to the sender:
By your own criteria south africa is not a democracy.
http://www.freemoviesdown.com/2013/07/myn-bala-french-dvdrip.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pJtK2N2peI[font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HMM3v7PEfg

zetdee: NIGERIA IS A PSEUDO DEMOCRACY.
Changing looters is not a democracy, rigging elections is not a democracy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVcIFa8Wdgw&feature=share

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmzZBcP2z4o&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3XplOA8d6Y&feature=player_embedded

I'll tell one of our mopols to jumpstart your destiny if you keep posting rubbish here

Henry120: Nigerian BTR in sudan

Nigerian troops in mali

Nigerian troops living quarters in mali

Nigerian troops in timbuktu mali

South african troops are skinny

zetdee: NIGERIA IS A PSEUDO DEMOCRACY.
Changing looters is not a democracy, rigging elections is not a democracy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVcIFa8Wdgw&feature=share

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmzZBcP2z4o&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3XplOA8d6Y&feature=player_embedded

is south africa a democracy?
http://m.news24.com/news24/MyNews24/YourStory/Is-South-Africa-a-democracy-20110523

Democracy is a FALLACY in south africa
http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politicsweb/view/politicsweb/en/page72308?oid=261675&sn=Detail&pid=72308

http://www.therightperspective.org/2011/02/26/when-will-democracy-come-to-south-africa/

will you stop posting stuff you are not free from. we beat you in military and you come up with this crap as if your country has true democracy. go to sleep abeg. mumu pikin

NaijaPikinGidi:

Substitute the words LOOTERS and RIGGING with ZUMA and ANC respectively. You are so lost inside your porous behind!!

There is massive rigging in Nigerian elections. NIGERIA IS NOT A DEMOCRACY. Obansanjo was installed as president despite clear proof of vote rigging.

https://www.nairaland.com/1102081/almost-
rigged-election-2003-obasanjo#12951708 RIGGING IS NOT DEMOCRACY
Obasanjo to be recognised despite rigged
Nigerian election
By Trevor Johnson and Chris Talbot 30 April 2003
The response of the Bush administration as well
as media reports makes clear that Olusegun Obasanjo and his People’s Democratic Party (PDP)
will be accepted as the legitimate victor in the
recent Nigerian elections, despite widespread
vote-rigging.
When it suits them the United States and other
western powers have raised their concerns about the legitimacy of an election in a
developing country. In Nigeria, however, despite
widespread reports of ballot box stuffing, under-
age voting and 100 percent returns from some
areas for the incumbent president, barely a
murmur can be heard. In a short statement, the US government states,
“Nigeria’s Independent National Electoral
Commission (INEC) on April 22 declared President
Olusegun Obasanjo the victor in last Saturday’s
presidential election” and “congratulates the
overwhelming majority of the Nigerian people for what was a peaceful exercise of their right to
vote in many parts of the country”. It merely calls
for all complaints to be taken to “competent
tribunals” to be considered “in a timely, impartial
and transparent manner.”
The New York Times initially labelled the elections as “botched”, described some of the
“irregularities” and said that Nigeria could not
“afford to ignore charges of regional
disenfranchisement.” It has since dutifully toned
down its criticisms, with an article on April 27
entitled “Nigeria Holds a ‘Credible’ Election. Is That Enough?” The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ran an
editorial headlined “Impressive but imperfect/
Despite fraud allegations, Nigerian election is
progress” while the Christian Science Monitor
commented that “given Nigeria’s long history of
military rule and rampant corruption, these elections were a relative success for civilian
control of the country and for attempts to
prevent voting fraud.”
The British BBC commented, “observers say that
Mr Obasanjo does enjoy considerable support
and probably would have won the election, even without the ‘over-zealousness’ of some of his
supporters.”
It goes on to say that since the difference
between Obasanjo’s total number of votes and
that of his nearest rival, Muhammadu Buhari, was
greater than the number of votes cast “where the worst irregularities occurred,” the overall
result should not be in doubt.
This forgiving approach to the ruling Nigerian
elite comes despite the obvious lack of progress
towards even a semblance of democratic rule
and the refusal of the wealthy ex-generals who run Nigeria to use any of the country’s oil wealth
to alleviate the http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2003/04/
nige-a30.html

Nigerians stop deceiving yourselves, nigeria is far from being democracy. A dead president ruled for months, just face the truth.
Even the governor election are rigged..imagine obassanjo telling to a governor I rigged your election.

NaijaPikinGidi:

Don't you ever get tired of being STU.PID?

Why is it that people only get stu.pid when they speak the truth.

zetdee:

There is massive rigging in Nigerian elections. NIGERIA IS NOT A DEMOCRACY. Obansanjo was installed as president despite clear proof of vote rigging.

mr HRW, what is the essence of posting a 2003 report in 2013? does it mean that Nigeria's democracy has grown that the international community commended president Jonathan for the way it was conducted?

posting a 10 year old report shows you have no case. focus on building your own democracy while we build ours.

lemme ask you? if a war was to break out between south africa and Nigeria, who do you think will have more support? who do you think has more influence even within your SADC?

well we all know the answer to that. just in case your brain is too slow to grasp, it NIGERIA.

so sharaap about democracy and focus on learning how to use you designer hardware. cowards

Msauza:

Why is it that people only get stu.pid when they speak the truth.

why do stupiid peaople always think they are saying the truth ?