Msauza:

Lies!! Give me one battle that the British lost in Nigeria. I will shortly paste for you proofs that Zulus and even SA as a whole won battles against the British.

1895: the british tried to invade Benin City but the forces they sent were decimated, only two of their soldiers survived.
There are many other battles.
I am not a history professor, so I would advise you to look for the colonial war history on your own.
What comes out from your claims is that you think your people are superior, you are a megalomaniac racist person. You start to sound like some nazis.
And still you are not adressing the fact that Nigerian kingdoms fought a more advanced british empire army using WW1 weapons. Try to add that to your zulu defeat by a less advanced british army.

Msauza:

Oh! Your dementia again. Humans and dogs are different species.

but in your own words:
Yes, that's what democracy is about. We do not just marginalised other groups just because we feel we are being offended through our useless traditions and religions.

so why marginalize now since beastiality is also another man's belief? i now see why there are growing numbers of lesbians in SA and SA girls are running to 9ja boys
your mentality is too wack.

saengine:

Own Goal .

Why put a picture of the Javelin anti-tank missile? Delete that picture you fraud, it has nothing to do with Nigeria.



And which Swingfire missiles are you going to fire at us if YOUR link states production ended in 1993. How do you train your troops to use it? You fire 1 missile a year for the past 20 years? You must choose.....either you have no missiles to fight us, or you have missiles but troops who are completely useless at using them. And don't talk about Britain and other users, they obviously bought more missiles than Nigeria.

He posted that photo because Nigeria has that weapon. Moreover, the US haven't fired its nuclear missiles since 1945, so shall we assume the US is also incompetent in using them ?
And why should we be firing our missiles ? on who ?
We fire them in trainings and that is enough for now.

Msauza:

You are indeed suffering from cranium condition. The protection of state information bill had many of its provisions repealed(cancelled).

And how does that address the over 750 pending criminal charges on a siting president? An unassailable world record! Like I said it is not my place to provide first hand evidence on this thread ... there is also Google for you all to check.

Ignorance is a disease ... seek help while you can.

NaijaPikinGidi:

You know next to nothing about your parliamentary processes and it is my place now to disgrace you block headed kid:

(1) Banana Republic ... so where did this notion come from? Feeling guilty!!
(2) Your secrecy bill has been passed into law by your parliament and simply awaits Zuma's rubber stamp.
(3) You like generalizing and fail to give specifics. Show your knowledge ... name the "other countries". (I await your response).
(4) Lie! Not every bill is refered to your Constitutional Court! Zuma's rubber stamp on the Bill makes it a binding law on you all, except if and when challenged before the Constitutional court by a body seeking certain reliefs! The very duty of Nigeria's Supreme Court.

First class ignoramus YOU ARE!

You are embarrassing yourself because of your ignorance about SA law. I am a South African who has studied SA law in university. There is no bill in SA that can be passed by the parliament before it can be tested for its constitutional relevance. It is a procedure that must be followed by the parliament because failure to do so can render the president for impeachment. I cannot believe this ignorance of yours, bwahahahahaha!!

chris365:

and please tell me what is so unique about their take on combat?

who would want to operate the way you do when you don't have a good history in combat. no wars won

and please don't make me remind you about CAR. so which army would?

even the newly formed somali army will reject your offer for training

Remind me about CAR please. How many days it took Nigeria to deploy in Mali?. By unique I mean "Long distance mechanised penetration,with less support",you can see this by how the Rooivalk was designed it can refill from drums somewhere in the African bush. Here's a picture below of SAAF Gripens in Zambia awaiting orders,to go into CAR. This was a quick reaction by the SANDF,Nigeria took months to deploy in Mali

patriot4: He posted that photo because Nigeria has that weapon. Moreover, the US haven't fired its nuclear missiles since 1945, so shall we assume the US is also incompetent in using them ?
And why should we be firing our missiles ? on who ?
We fire them in trainings and that is enough for now.

[img]http://img1.nairaland.com/attachments/1203334_NA_SWINGFIRE_IN_BUSH_jpg451bed0cb2f73c9fbb1e265e3f3d0b36[/img]

Nigeria does not have this. This is a Javelin anti tank, not a Swingfire anti tank.

Exactly, you had to jump to nuclear weapons because you couldn't think of any other defence system that doesn't require regular training to keep soldiers competent. Go read about how nuclear weapons work and what compromises the system, then get back to us.

agaugust:


swingfire anti-tank guided missile of nigerian army is the most deadly in africa....


it can be fired from a vehicle like made in nigeria Proforce APC anti-tank version or fired by one single nigerian soldier hiding in secret location from any range between 0.15km to 4km away safely (in the bush, house bedroom window, tree top, house roof top) from the enemy Tanks or Armoured Vehicles when it is fired, the soldier or Cobra APC/VBL APC that fired it will not be located because the nigerian swingfire is the only anti-tank guided missile in the world that makes a 90 degree turn away from launching source to deceive and confuse the enemy tank about the location of the nigerian soldier, it also attacks the enemy from behind when it is launched from the front to confuse the enemy and avoid counter attack from enemy forces. nigerian swingfire missile has unique and special ability to be fired from secret locations.

nigerian army swingfire anti-tank guided missiles will delete from the earths surface, all south african armoured vehicles and tanks. period

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swingfire

It has a range of 4km so shut up. Did you know the Mokopa(Black mamba in Sepedi) missile can be fitted to a vehicle and it has a range of 10km. The swingfire's production stopped in 1993 you know what that means. GET IT?

@Agaugust attached is the video of the Police Special task force training
http://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=saps%2Bspecial%2Btask%2Bforce%2Bvideos&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&ved=0CDYQuAIwAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Da5mv2vg0oZA&ei=6zXlUeGmBMHMhAex5oDYDQ&usg=AFQjCNH31GsX9J5xnJuMtuadzfLNhUElng

South African Special Forces capabilities
http://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=sandf%2Bspecial%2Bforces%2Bvideos&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&ved=0CDwQuAIwAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DeM1vnA_yxA0&ei=-TblUcLENomphAfWsYHIDQ&usg=AFQjCNEEh5vG1snVaMe6XC7xW3PCJsRm_A

South African navy
http://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=south%2Bafrican%2Bnavy%2Btraining%2Bvideos&source=web&cd=8&cad=rja&ved=0CFYQuAIwBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DRswi4CNf-uQ&ei=OzflUanZG5CJhQf_tIHgDQ&usg=AFQjCNHzg28t25Gq13qI9mVg9CLW728vXg

South African airforce training
http://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=south%2Bafrican%2Bairforce%2Btraining%2Bvideos&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&ved=0CDkQtwIwAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D0fcAMweMDC4&ei=mzflUa65L8uFhQeW3IDACQ&usg=AFQjCNG7kbDGwc91If-NRFwU5FesIbx7iw

South African National Defence Force videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4FB09CwiQY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT04AyF895U

http://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=sandf%2Bvideos&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&ved=0CEEQuAIwAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dp7Zn6VmCSU0&ei=DDnlUdn3OcqFhQf2loCAAQ&usg=AFQjCNH5Eydm2UqD7XDGqHwVbxzOH5qynw

NaijaPikinGidi:

And how does that address the over 750 pending criminal charges on a siting president? An unassailable world record! Like I said it is not my place to provide first hand evidence on this thread ... there is also Google for you all to check.

Ignorance is a disease ... seek help while you can.

Those are just only one way of mocking by the media. Zuma never really had 750 charges. Even habitual of all criminals can never come to that. That is just a way by commercialised SA newspapers of discrediting Zuma. The very newspapers that you Nigerians accuse us of using to plant our seed of propaganda while they remain the enermy of our government.

Mike..ZA:
Remind me about CAR please. How many days it took Nigeria to deploy in Mali?. By unique I mean "Long distance mechanised penetration,with less support",you can see this by how the Rooivalk was designed it can refill from drums somewhere in the African bush. Here's a picture below of SAAF Gripens in Zambia awaiting orders,to go into CAR. This was a quick reaction by the SANDF,Nigeria took months to deploy in Mali

Nigeria can actually boast of having done the fastest deployment of men and material in African history and one of the fastest in human history: we did that in Liberia and Sierra Leone.
Nigeria wanted the rest of West Africa to take a little bit of responsability in mali.
We already have soldiers in Liberia, Sierra Leone, Guinea, and Sudan. And each time anything happens in West Africa, we are expected to act alone and bear all the spendings, so we said no, everybody has to contribute.

saengine:

[img]http://img1.nairaland.com/attachments/1203334_NA_SWINGFIRE_IN_BUSH_jpg451bed0cb2f73c9fbb1e265e3f3d0b36[/img]

Nigeria does not have this. This is a Javelin anti tank, not a Swingfire anti tank.

Exactly, you had to jump to nuclear weapons because you couldn't think of any other defence system that doesn't require regular training to keep soldiers competent. Go read about how nuclear weapons work and what compromises the system, then get back to us.

As I stated, Nigeria does fire missiles in training. That makes you completely out of topic.
And for the photo, maybe he put the wrong photo, but he claimed the right product.

.

chris365:

but in your own words:
Yes, that's what democracy is about. We do not just marginalised other groups just because we feel we are being offended through our useless traditions and religions.

so why marginalize now since beastiality is also another man's belief? i now see why there are growing numbers of lesbians in SA and SA girls are running to 9ja boys
your mentality is too wack.

chris pls choose another point of arguement.stop talking too shallow.definition of democracy differs from country to country.each with its own standards and values.

Msauza:

You are embarrassing yourself because of your ignorance about SA law. I am a South African who has studied SA law in university. There is no bill in SA that can be passed by the parliament before it can be tested for its constitutional relevance. It is a procedure that must be followed by the parliament because failure to do so can render the president for impeachment. I cannot believe this ignorance of yours, bwahahahahaha!!

And again I am educating you that the bill has been passed and now awaits Jacob Zuma's rubber stamp! Is that too hard to understand? Once that is stamped by your president, it becomes THE LAW!! Except Zuma returns it for amendment it is safely law by all intents and purpose!! Your university law degree is suspect ... so why not sit down while I teach you parliamentary/constitutional processes applied in your own country!!!!!

Be humble!!

patriot4:
1895: the british tried to invade Benin City but the forces they sent were decimated, only two of their soldiers survived.
There are many other battles.
I am not a history professor, so I would advise you to look for the colonial war history on your own.
What comes out from your claims is that you think your people are superior, you are a megalomaniac racist person. You start to sound like some nazis.
And still you are not adressing the fact that Nigerian kingdoms fought a more advanced british empire army using WW1 weapons. Try to add that to your zulu defeat by a less advanced british army.

The Zulus are Africa's best combat tested tribe. Great warrior King Shaka invited the Buffalo horns tactic,which is the equivalent of today's pincers movement. Read more about Shaka's Generals who conquered land from present day SA to areas until Tanzania,Zambia and Malawi only to be stopped when the area northwards seemed to be infested by the tsetse fly. The Sothos defeated the British on several occasions too.

Mike..ZA:
Remind me about CAR please. How many days it took Nigeria to deploy in Mali?. By unique I mean "Long distance mechanised penetration,with less support",you can see this by how the Rooivalk was designed it can refill from drums somewhere in the African bush. Here's a picture below of SAAF Gripens in Zambia awaiting orders,to go into CAR. This was a quick reaction by the SANDF,Nigeria took months to deploy in Mali

our troops were on standby and ready to move to mali. but we wanted to do it without our money because we've always funded conflicts resolutions in ECOWAS. at least our generals are not s.tupid to send some soldiers to go and die like mosquitoes only to abort out of fear of losing more cowards

Mike..ZA:
Remind me about CAR please. How many days it took Nigeria to deploy in Mali?. By unique I mean "Long distance mechanised penetration,with less support",you can see this by how the Rooivalk was designed it can refill from drums somewhere in the African bush. Here's a picture below of SAAF Gripens in Zambia awaiting orders,to go into CAR. This was a quick reaction by the SANDF,Nigeria took months to deploy in Mali

Latecomer!! You missed this same debate long ago. It's not worth going through with you again!! All we see is more of the same pictures as usual yet, the planes were in the freezer when SANDF took to their heels in defeat.

Msauza:

Those are just only one way of mocking by the media. Zuma never really had 750 charges. Even habitual of all criminals can never come to that. That is just a way by commercialised SA newspapers of discrediting Zuma. The very newspapers that you Nigerians accuse us of using to plant our seed of propaganda while they remain the enermy of our government.

You are a clown!! Very obvious.

Mike..ZA:
The Zulus are Africa's best combat tested tribe. Great warrior King Shaka invited the Buffalo horns tactic,which is the equivalent of today's pincers movement. Read more about Shaka's Generals who conquered land from present day SA to areas until Tanzania,Zambia and Malawi only to be stopped when the area northwards seemed to be infested by the tsetse fly. The Sothos defeated the British on several occasions too.

I think it is you who needs to learn one thing or two about African history. The Zulus are no where near, many kingdoms in African history: for example I would pick all these kingdoms over the Zulus: the Dahomians or the Ethiopians or the Edos or The Bereber or the Fulanis and so on...

chris365:

but in your own words:
Yes, that's what democracy is about. We do not just marginalised other groups just because we feel we are being offended through our useless traditions and religions.

so why marginalize now since beastiality is also another man's belief? i now see why there are growing numbers of lesbians in SA and SA girls are running to 9ja boys
your mentality is too wack.

Don't let me eat your own words. I was always speaking about human beings and have never spoke about other species, such as cows, dogs, snakes, etc. Your dementia only lied to you that I have commented something about other species. The staff that you are smoking is too strong for you.

Democracy exist only among humans and not animals.

Mike..ZA:
The Zulus are Africa's best combat tested tribe. Great warrior King Shaka invited the Buffalo horns tactic,which is the equivalent of today's pincers movement. Read more about Shaka's Generals who conquered land from present day SA to areas until Tanzania,Zambia and Malawi only to be stopped when the area northwards seemed to be infested by the tsetse fly. The Sothos defeated the British on several occasions too.

so because you don't have any current combat experience compared to Nigeria, you want to use shaka zulu's experience to rank your army as number one in africa?

chei!!! these south africans no go kill me with their mumu character

patriot4:
Nigeria can actually boast of having done the fastest deployment of men and material in African history and one of the fastest in human history: we did that in Liberia and Sierra Leone.
Nigeria wanted the rest of West Africa to take a little bit of responsability in mali.
We already have soldiers in Liberia, Sierra Leone, Guinea, and Sudan. And each time anything happens in West Africa, we are expected to act alone and bear all the spendings, so we said no, everybody has to contribute.

In African history you say?,remember when the SADF rushed into Angola to help UNITA. Your record was broken by Botswana and SA when they quickly deployed men in Lesotho,regardless of the state the SANDF was in. And again we saw how quick a company of parabats landed in CAR,and the reaction after they were engaged in combat. The SANDF sent another company of bats to Uganda and stationed attack Helos and Fighter jets in country around CAR. While Heitman was telling the media,that the SANDF was stuck in CAR. And the African Union could have paid for the mission in CAR,so stop talking about funds.

patriot4:
I think it is you who needs to learn one thing or two about African history. The Zulus are no where near, many kingdoms in African history: for example I would pick all these kingdoms over the Zulus: the Dahomians or the Ethiopians or the Edos or The Bereber or the Fulanis and so on...

The Zulus are the great nation, even in Nigeria there are many people who were named after the great Zulu nation and king Shaka. Oh my God how influential is such a great nation.

chris365:

so because you don't have any current combat experience compared to Nigeria, you want to use shaka zulu's experience to rank your army as number one in africa?

chei!!! these south africans no go kill me with their mumu character

Current combat experience? The SANDF is compromised of soldiers whom fought on both sides during the Bush war. So our experience is way rich. Our last combat test was in car,which was influenced by politician. While our bush war veteran colonels and Generals were ready to go into CAR and destroy seleka.

Mike..ZA:
In African history you say?,remember when the SADF rushed into Angola to help UNITA. Your record was broken by Botswana and SA when they quickly deployed men in Lesotho,regardless of the state the SANDF was in. And again we saw how quick a company of parabats landed in CAR,and the reaction after they were engaged in combat. The SANDF sent another company of bats to Uganda and stationed attack Helos and Fighter jets in country around CAR. While Heitman was telling the media,that the SANDF was stuck in CAR. And the African Union could have paid for the mission in CAR,so stop talking about funds.

Keep on dreaming, you don't even come close.

patriot4: As I stated, Nigeria does fire missiles in training. That makes you completely out of topic.
And for the photo, maybe he put the wrong photo, but he claimed the right product.

And my point is which missiles are you firing in training if production stopped in 1993? Or is DICON producing Swingfire missiles for Nigeria? . So tell your friend to edit his statement about Swingfire deleting all SA tanks from the surface of the earth.

Msauza:

The Zulus are the great nation, even in Nigeria there are many people who were named after the great Zulu nation and king Shaka. Oh my God how influential is such a great nation.

It is hard to discuss with mad men.

saengine:

And my point is which missiles are you firing in training if production stopped in 1993? Or is DICON producing Swingfire missiles for Nigeria? . So tell your friend to edit his statement about Swingfire deleting all SA tanks from the surface of the earth.

And you think Nigeria wouldn't produce the weapons under license !
So you think we set out to call european companies if we faced a shortage of missiles while at the battle front !
Please be serious.

patriot4: And you think Nigeria wouldn't produce the weapons under license !
So you think we set out to call european companies if we faced a shortage of missiles while at the battle front !
Please be serious.

LMAAAAOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow you just made my day.

patriot4:
I think it is you who needs to learn one thing or two about African history. The Zulus are no where near, many kingdoms in African history: for example I would pick all these kingdoms over the Zulus: the Dahomians or the Ethiopians or the Edos or The Bereber or the Fulanis and so on...

Let's talk about who conquered in battle. Who went to combat with less men and came back with more. Yes,That's the Zulus boy. The Zulus were a small tribe during Shaka's father dynasty,under Shaka a small tribe rose to the top with the worse brutality the African continent has ever seen. You need to read about Mfecane.

patriot4:
1895: the british tried to invade Benin City but the forces they sent were decimated, only two of their soldiers survived.
There are many other battles.
I am not a history professor, so I would advise you to look for the colonial war history on your own.
What comes out from your claims is that you think your people are superior, you are a megalomaniac racist person. You start to sound like some nazis.
And still you are not adressing the fact that Nigerian kingdoms fought a more advanced british empire army using WW1 weapons. Try to add that to your zulu defeat by a less advanced british army.

It is unfortunate that you do not quote any source, hence your comments must be deemed null and void. The battle of Isandlwana is still even taken with high regard by the British. Here is the proof of how the Zulus defeated the British http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/southafrica/6670739/Zulu-warriors-who-defeated-British-to-be-honoured.html. Bwahahahahaha!! Give us a source that your coward Nigerians defeated the British.