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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 12:50pm On Sep 03, 2013
Fighter Pilot:

Young man do not let anger to cloud your sound reasoning. Every contigent in MONUSCO is under the command of its colonel and the man on top is a Brazilian, Carlos Alberto dos Santos Cruz. There is no South Africa that is under the command of Tanzania and that misinformation really caused my colleagues to bust down with laughter when I told them about it.

The UN appointed the Brazilian general who helped to stabilise peace in Haiti to head the mission.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Alberto_Dos_Santos_Cruz

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-22290242

Since when do UN have the authority to rank militaries in accordance to their prowess?

They themselves have been trumpeting that they served in Somalia. We all know who was looking after that mission. The name doesn't start with an N.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 12:52pm On Sep 03, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: dont mind the retards , they think I posted the link to claim shekau's death lma...the link is there to expose the NA army and her lies, the link is there to close your mouths , it is clear that your army is unprofessional, not trained , no discipline whatsoever..in fact all the succes reported against Bokoharam might lies abi? And they are praising an institution that even a blind man won't trust?.eh eh grin
Last bullet, all the verified actions/missions against bokoharam have been carried by the joint force composed of ? U guessed right foreign armies...jokers. I doubt the USA will call anyone to help them tackle an insurrection on their territory. The NA is simply useless and the Naijans here are empty barrels. The people that have been worked with ur army all have one thing to say: lack of discipline. grin grin grin
Na my foot

Their own leaders say they are unprofessional and don't know how to handle themselves. SMH.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 1:04pm On Sep 03, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: dont mind the retards , they think I posted the link to claim shekau's death lma...the link is there to expose the NA army and her lies, the link is there to close your mouths , it is clear that your army is unprofessional, not trained , no discipline whatsoever..in fact all the succes reported against Bokoharam might lies abi? And they are praising an institution that even a blind man won't trust?.eh eh grin
Last bullet, all the verified actions/missions against bokoharam have been carried by the joint force composed of ? U guessed right foreign armies...jokers. I doubt the USA will call anyone to help them tackle an insurrection on their territory. The NA is simply useless and the Naijans here are empty barrels. The people that have been worked with ur army all have one thing to say: lack of discipline. grin grin grin
Na my foot

So what did you post the link for? Insults will never mask your pain and frustration regarding Nigeria Army's resolute efforts to defend our borders and citizens. Only you will leave here without achieving the basic motive for posting your initial comment ... mainly to discredit the NA and fraudulently credit your spineless gendarmes with the possible elimination of Shekau. Until you provide full answers to the questions directed at you and your initial comments, all you can do is take weak swipes at a Nigerian Army apparatus that is doing a good job taking out enemies of socio-economic progress in Nigeria. BTW the NA long ago had stated the sequence of events in the battle that left Shekau badly injured ... plus they also mentioned the battle location and how Boko Haram fled across to your weak side of the border. NA's planners and Intel operatives had a final strike plan in place to incur into Cameroun if not for their weak and docile security forces. Why not just focus on projecting the strengths/accolades of Cameroun's Army that obviously is non-existent! shocked shocked Name calling and insults are the stuff of empty minds, so enjoy your shallow emptiness!!

Last bullet? grin grin grin Surely you've been firing blanks all along! That's what unknown soldiers do best! Now run along fast ... Come back when you have some sense to make!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 1:14pm On Sep 03, 2013
CraigB:

They themselves have been trumpeting that they served in Somalia. We all know who was looking after that mission. The name doesn't start with an N.

Carlos Alberto Dos Santos Cruz is not even a Tanzanian.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 1:41pm On Sep 03, 2013
Fighter Pilot:

Carlos Alberto Dos Santos Cruz is not even a Tanzanian.

They need to understand the power of humility. Look at what happened in Mali because of their "oga at the top" mentality.

Their mission failed.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaurbDSCgho&sns=em
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 2:54pm On Sep 03, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: dont mind the retards , they think I posted the link to claim shekau's death lma...the link is there to expose the NA army and her lies, the link is there to close your mouths , it is clear that your army is unprofessional, not trained , no discipline whatsoever..in fact all the succes reported against Bokoharam might lies abi? And they are praising an institution that even a blind man won't trust?.eh eh grin
Last bullet, all the verified actions/missions against bokoharam have been carried by the joint force composed of ? U guessed right foreign armies...jokers. I doubt the USA will call anyone to help them tackle an insurrection on their territory. The NA is simply useless and the Naijans here are empty barrels. The people that have been worked with ur army all have one thing to say: lack of discipline. grin grin grin
Na my foot

kids, stay in school and read to enlighten yourselves so you can sound bright when you speak. Even though this one's ignorance and madness is irredeemable, you can still avoid such disease.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 2:59pm On Sep 03, 2013
Fighter Pilot:

Carlos Alberto Dos Santos Cruz is not even a Tanzanian.

dude, the commander of the intervention brigade is a Tanzanian. It's been proven several times.

The brigade is a special UN unit. Hence, in command of the Tanzanian general.

He gives your army orders.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 3:15pm On Sep 03, 2013
chris365:

dude, the commander of the intervention brigade is a Tanzanian. It's been proven several times.

The brigade is a special UN unit. Hence, in command of the Tanzanian general.

He gives your army orders.


The FIB is temporary, wonder if you are aware of that. The commander on top is a Brazilian.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 3:25pm On Sep 03, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: dont mind the retards , they think I posted the link to claim shekau's death lma...the link is there to expose the NA army and her lies, the link is there to close your mouths , it is clear that your army is unprofessional, not trained , no discipline whatsoever..in fact all the succes reported against Bokoharam might lies abi? And they are praising an institution that even a blind man won't trust?.eh eh grin
Last bullet, all the verified actions/missions against bokoharam have been carried by the joint force composed of ? U guessed right foreign armies...jokers. I doubt the USA will call anyone to help them tackle an insurrection on their territory. The NA is simply useless and the Naijans here are empty barrels. The people that have been worked with ur army all have one thing to say: lack of discipline. grin grin grin
Na my foot

CameroonPride cannot control his palpitation to have all his Nigerian desires served! For not being able to "feel among" he resorts to throwing fits of tantrums here and there on Nairaland! From stalking ladies, to harassing lesbians for their contact details, to being so anti-Chinua Achebe (world acclaimed father of modern African literature), it is clear you have a deep personality issue! It is this same CameroonPride who got so awed by the exploits of the 102 man Nigerian Army contingent who outperformed Cameroon's Army on their 21st May 2013 national day celebrations that could help posting the video with such positive comments which now strongly contradicts his desperate 180 degrees turnaround. Check this:

CAMEROONPRIDE:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVk1QXmn6WA
cool cool... cool
Watched the Nigerian bataillon

Then check his comments on this specific thread especially from after the 21st May 2013.

What a bloody chamelon CameroonPride is? grin grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 3:28pm On Sep 03, 2013
Fighter Pilot:

The FIB is temporary, wonder if you are aware of that. The commander on top is a Brazilian.

As temporary as you want it to be ... The Tanzanian General remains SANDF's boss and commander! What don't you understand?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 3:34pm On Sep 03, 2013
NaijaPikinGidi:

As temporary as you want it to be ... The Tanzanian General remains SANDF's boss and commander! What don't you understand?

Is not me who want it is the UN. After everything else the mission will still remain MONUSCO headed by permanent appointee, Mr Carlos Alberto dos Santos Cruz who is as well under the command of a civilian Ban Ki moon.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by kwametut: 3:40pm On Sep 03, 2013
@FighterPilot
KEEP SCHOOLING THESE OLD FARTS. Im told they earn PEANUTS naaigeria army is CHEAP. Hence I said if we were asked to come to anywhere in west africa. Naaigerian BI-TCHES will hang their pussies like Beverly Osu did to Angelo.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 3:42pm On Sep 03, 2013
Nigeria has also served many years in peace keeping or peace enforcement missions under the head who is not Nigerian. I don't see your point of argument in this.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by kwametut: 3:44pm On Sep 03, 2013
@CameroonPride
[b]Ya'll BANTU SPEAKERS need to start your OWN CURRENCY,ARMY ETC..STARTING FROM SOUTHERN CAMEROON TO SOUTHERN KENYA TO CAPE TOWN. I was shocked ya'll will always OUTNUMBERS naai-gerians. By 2160 its gonna be WORSE.



East Africa a new population heavyweight

[Education in Benin]

Large new generations put a strain on the African education system
© UNFPA Bénin/afrol News
afrol News, 20 October -

The East African region is slowly developing into one of the world's new population blocks, with the region surpassing all of North America in few years and all of Europe by the 2040s. A new, major power may be building up.

New data by the UN population fund UNFPA presented in London today reveal a major global population shift, where the Eastern African region is emerging as one of the world's largest blocks in the coming decades.

UNFPA data show that Eastern Africa already in 2010 has a total population of 327 million, thus having advanced into the most populated region in Africa. Recent growth has made smaller East Africa surpassing West Africa (306 million).

Together with the more sparsely populated Central African region, East Africa still has the world's highest population growth, thus securing that the region will keep on surpassing other regions. Both in Eastern and Central Africa, the average population growth is estimated at 2.6 percent annually.

In its projection, UNFPA therefore estimates the East African population to have more than doubled by 2050, then reaching a total of 711 million.

This fast growth would mean a dramatic shift of population centres globally. East Africa in a few years will have a larger population that all of North America. The slow growth in North America foresees that this vast continent will have a population of 448 million in 2050.

Also the Arab states' total population will be surpassed by the East African region during the next decade, despite relative high population growth numbers in the Arab world.

Even all of Europe will have a smaller population than the relatively small region of East Africa in 2050, as the European population is projected to decrease in the coming years. Europe's population in 2050 is projected to reach 691 million, compared to East Africa's 711 million.

And during the 2050s, East Africa could even surpass the entire population of Latin America and the Caribbean, from Mexico in the north to Argentina in the south.

In the 2050s, this will leave Eastern Africa as the world's third largest population block - and market - world-wide, after Southern Asia (mainly India) and Eastern Asia (mainly China).

In Africa, which is estimated to reach a total population of 2 billion in 2050, East Africa (711 million) and Western Africa (626 million) are crystallising as the two population heavyweights on the continent, UNFPA data show.

Central Africa by 2050 will, for the first time in its history, become a major population block (273 million) with a relatively dense population and therefore greater possibilities of growing a proper market. North Africa, and esp
[UNFPA report]


The UNFPA data also show that there is a major population shift between African states. Nigeria is today (158 million) Africa's most populated country, and will remain so in 2050 (289 million). Ethiopia however will take over the second place from Egypt within one or two years and reaches a population of 174 million by 2050, according to UNFPA estimates.

Congo Kinshasa (DRC) will make a leap on the list during the next decades. The vast and sparsely populated country now has a population of 68 million, which is projected to grow to 148 million by 2050, making the DRC the third most populated country in Africa.

The strongest population growth, world-wide, is however projected for Niger, currently at an annual rate of 3.9 percent. The impoverished and drought-prone Sahelian country is estimated to see its population increase from the current 16 million to 58 million in 2050, probably creating massive environmental and social problems.

The most massive population shift, however, is encountered in the East Africa region, with the block growing in population importance at large. Uganda will see the strongest growth - currently 3.3 percent annually - and will surpass Kenya's population in the 2030s and reach 91 million in 2050. Tanzania will get Africa's fifth largest population, totalling 110 million, by 2050, according to UNFPA data.

For East Africa, the massive projected population growth will mean both challenges and opportunities. With the establishment of a common market through the East African Community (EAC), the block may develop into a major world player during the next decades if the region's fast economic growth is maintained. A block of 711 million consumers in 2050 can not be ignored - if the population majority is lifted out of poverty.

But the enormous growth will also make social development difficult. Economic growth rates of at least 2.6 percent each and every year will be necessary only to maintain status quo. Only the additional growth can be used to reduce poverty. Food security in the region will depend on a "green revolution" or ever-increasing food imports, and the pressure on the environment will be immense.

Current trends however indicate that East Africa is able to combine a rapidly growing population with economic growth and poverty reduction. An optimistic view is therefore possible.

By staff writer

© afrol News[/b]
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by kwametut: 3:47pm On Sep 03, 2013
^^^^Uganda,Tanzania,Malawi,DRC are projected to give Naageria headaches in POPULATION by 2050. grin grin grin grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 3:48pm On Sep 03, 2013
Fighter Pilot:

Is not me who want it is the UN. After everything else the mission will still remain MONUSCO headed by permanent appointee, Mr Carlos Alberto dos Santos Cruz who is as well under the command of a civilian Ban Ki moon.

You accepted it because you desperately wanted it. Stop your excuses!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 3:51pm On Sep 03, 2013
Fighter Pilot: Nigeria has also served many years in peace keeping or peace enforcement missions under the head who is not Nigerian. I don't see your point of argument in this.

History is there for you to scavenge on! Try some more! Where Nigeria is concerned our command principles must be scrutinized! shocked shocked shocked
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 3:52pm On Sep 03, 2013
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 3:52pm On Sep 03, 2013
Fighter Pilot:

The FIB is temporary, wonder if you are aware of that. The commander on top is a Brazilian.

dude, MONUSCO wasn't supposed to last this long. Your troops size is about to increase to 2000 and you still believe it's a emporary mission.. Coming from UN? Think again.

Unless the FIB is dissolved and the political problem of DRC is resolved, you just engaged in a long war. DRC is not about to be stable in the next decade cos even your country is benefitting from the instability.

DRC problem will only end politically and not militarily

M23 may fall but their are other rebels and more will surface like M23 did.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 3:53pm On Sep 03, 2013
NaijaPikinGidi:

You accepted it because you desperately wanted it. Stop your excuses!

The point of argument is what? Simple question. Tanzanian commander. Big deal!?

The mission carries on. Mali failed for your ogres, remember?

Cry us a river.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 3:53pm On Sep 03, 2013
NaijaPikinGidi:

You accepted it because you desperately wanted it. Stop your excuses!

Those are not excuses, UN reserves the rights to appoint whoever they want to appoint. They have that prerogative, just like they appointed commanders other than Nigerian born throughout Nigerian peace keeping missions. So, what is your point brother?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 3:54pm On Sep 03, 2013
Happy is the man who dials up his lapdog when all else fails. grin grin grin Very timely!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 3:54pm On Sep 03, 2013
kwame tut: ^^^^Uganda,Tanzania,Malawi,DRC are projected to give Naageria headaches in POPULATION by 2050. grin grin grin grin

and your point? O, empty as usual.

Your white pig will join you very soon. He's been dying for another empty head to complete him

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 3:57pm On Sep 03, 2013
Fighter Pilot:

Those are not excuses, UN reserves the rights to appoint whoever they want to appoint. They have that prerogative, just like they appointed commanders other than Nigerian born throughout Nigerian peace keeping missions. So, what is your point brother?

Eat the humble pie young man! DENEL weapons are getting rusty in the hands of SANDF men and women who prefer the back rows of the frontlines. Where is your overrated might?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 4:01pm On Sep 03, 2013
Fighter Pilot:

Is not me who want it is the UN. After everything else the mission will still remain MONUSCO headed by permanent appointee, Mr Carlos Alberto dos Santos Cruz who is as well under the command of a civilian Ban Ki moon.

all still balls down to the Tanzanian commanding your troops. Simple
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:06pm On Sep 03, 2013
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[size=16pt]Confirmed :

Tanzanian Army Commands And Bosses South African Army In Congo DRC War....

....the better force now in charge...Tanzania ! [/size]

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the Brazilian Lt.General commands the ONLY the peace mission of estimated 17,000 soldiers in Congo DRC with limited combat mandate


"United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon announced today the appointment of Lieutenant General Carlos Alberto dos Santos Cruz of Brazil as Force Commander of the United Nations Organization Stabilization Mission in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (MONUSCO).

He succeeds Lieutenant General Chander Prakash Wadhwa of India, who completed his assignment on 31 March 2013, and to whom the Secretary-General is grateful for his dedicated and effective service during his tenure of more than two years."

http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2013/sga1407.doc.htm


the Tanzanian Brig.General DIRECTLY commands the special brigade called FIB of about 3,000 soldiers in Congo DRC with full mandate for full combat and offensive war


http://www.afriquejet.com/news/783-monusco-tanzanian-to-command-monusco-special-brigade.html

http://www.theinternational.org/articles/450-united-nations-authorizes-offensive-opera

both men consult each other as you see example in photo below with an asian discussing with the brazilian, but the Tanzanian man will command and rule over all the South African army officers and men in Congo DRC war....FACT !!!



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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 4:09pm On Sep 03, 2013
chris365:

all still balls down to the Tanzanian commanding your troops. Simple

chris365:

Brigadier James Mwakibolwaall still balls down to the Tanzanian commanding your troops. Simple


That's why I am always saying that it is not wise to always engage in military talk with mere civilians because you stand to gain nothing. By the way you want to tell me that of all missions Nigeria took part all boiled down to the nationality of the man on top.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 4:17pm On Sep 03, 2013
Fighter Pilot:

That's why I am always saying that it is not wise to always engage in military talk with mere civilians because you stand to gain nothing. By the way you want to tell me that of all missions Nigeria took part all boiled down to the nationality of the man on top.

Shut up you rankless kid soldier! Tanzanians are leading the frontline battles! Stop using this commander nonsense to hide the actual point. Either ways the Tanzanians are getting the real job done!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 4:20pm On Sep 03, 2013
Fighter Pilot: Nigeria has also served many years in peace keeping or peace enforcement missions under the head who is not Nigerian. I don't see your point of argument in this.

as a soldier you should be able to differentiate between peace keeping and enforcement.

Nigeri has never been under command of any foreign troop in peace enforcement.

Our mission in somalia was funded by the US since they needed help from african troops and only Nigeria was capable of such deadly mission. But was never under US command.
sANDF with it's shiny weapons have no achievements in peace enforcements.

Trust me, you are in good hands under Tanzanian command. They are better achieved than SANDF. Fact

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 4:22pm On Sep 03, 2013
agaugust: .

[size=16pt]Confirmed :

Tanzanian Army Commands And Bosses South African Army In Congo DRC War....

....the better force now in charge...Tanzania ! [/size]

.

the Brazilian Lt.General commands the only peace mission of estimated 17,000 soldiers in Congo DRC with limited combat mandate


"United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon announced today the appointment of Lieutenant General Carlos Alberto dos Santos Cruz of Brazil as Force Commander of the United Nations Organization Stabilization Mission in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (MONUSCO).

He succeeds Lieutenant General Chander Prakash Wadhwa of India, who completed his assignment on 31 March 2013, and to whom the Secretary-General is grateful for his dedicated and effective service during his tenure of more than two years."

http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2013/sga1407.doc.htm


the Tanzanian Brig.General commands only the special brigade called FIB of about 3,000 soldiers in Congo DRC with full mandate for full combat and offensive war


http://www.afriquejet.com/news/783-monusco-tanzanian-to-command-monusco-special-brigade.html

http://www.theinternational.org/articles/450-united-nations-authorizes-offensive-opera

both men consult each other as you see example in photo below with an asian discussing with the brazilian, but the Tanzanian man will command and rule over all the South African army officers and men in Congo DRC war....FACT !!!



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Agaugust the problem is that you are just a civilian who knows nothing about military. You are just MR think know it all. I am an officer in SANDF and have deployed trice in my career as a soldier. The over-arching mission is MONUSCO for which SA has been deployed and further redeployed to the intervention brigade. Those are sub-missions which are temporary and everything will boil down back to MONUSCO which is headed by a Brazilian.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 4:38pm On Sep 03, 2013
Fighter Pilot:

Agaugust the problem is that you are just a civilian who knows nothing about military. You are just MR think know it all. I am an officer in SANDF and have deployed trice in my career as a soldier. The over-arching mission is MONUSCO for which SA has been deployed and further redeployed to the intervention brigade. Those are sub-missions which are temporary and everything will boil down back to MONUSCO which is headed by a Brazilian.

Officer only in SANDF! Deployed only in your South Africa! Point is Tanzania are leading the onslaught on M23. You can't change the story of the Tanzanian troop efforts on he frontlines! All the M23 sees first is Tanzania and of course South Africa cowering behind!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 4:38pm On Sep 03, 2013
chris365:

as a soldier you should be able to differentiate between peace keeping and enforcement.

Nigeri has never been under command of any foreign troop in peace enforcement.

Our mission in somalia was funded by the US since they needed help from african troops and only Nigeria was capable of such deadly mission. But was never under US command.
sANDF with it's shiny weapons have no achievements in peace enforcements.

Trust me, you are in good hands under Tanzanian command. They are better achieved than SANDF. Fact




More intellectual rubbish.

Peace enforcement. Peace keeping. The fact of the matter is that this particular mission is the first of its kind...ever!

You Naai-gerians know absolutely nothing about it.

History-making is for the South African, Tanzanians and Malawians.

You can't tell us anything. In fact, cry about it, why don cha?

Your flag doesn't even appear on the main list of countries that worked on Somalia. You are an "other" and you appear as a footnote of also-rans.

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