bk.babe97y:

  Sure! In the time it took u to put up your usual, vile, Ibo comments, u coulda scoured Google and came up with (at least) a "half-answer" on what u know of the Hadith! Monkey! I despise pretentious individuals with a passion! If u dont know something, seek knowledge, read, ask questions instead of relying on tales told by your bitter parents under the Biafran Moonlight!

   Now, your assignment for the day:

1. Find out "What is the Hadith?".

2. How was it compiled?

3. Who were its Authors?

  Goodluck, Gorilla! You have 20 minutes!

chyz:

Obviously i know what it is but i dont have to answer to you woman to.

bk.babe97y:

Man, shut the hell up! You couldnt give an answer to save your miserable life! Still trying to fake the funk! lol.

Judeylive:

Clearly, only few people here really know what they are talking about. Very few! Secession is a very delicate and trivia issue, and it should be treated as such. Some people might see Ojukwu as an hero today, but that's because they weren't alive when the war was going on, or they didn't get stumped in life because their parent were no more to take care of them emotionally and educationally! Yeah, no doubt, the northerners were killing Ibos, and the foolish northern head of state didn't do anything about it, but Ojukwu didn't reason ahead, he didn't pause for a moment to think about the possibility of the failure of his actions. He even ran abroad during the war, and would probably have muttered to himself; 'Foolish people keep killing each other' while sipping a cup of hot coffee! What is the outcome of the war he caused? Political segregation of the Igbos and South East and South-South at large! Enmity! Mistrust! Exactly what is happening right now in this forum!
For the people championing that North could, and won't secede, why is North clinging desperately on Nigeria, why did they fought the civil war with their lives?
While you guys are busy lashing out at each other, maybe you should take sometimes to reflect, The United States of A that we know today is not made of only one tribe. Matter of fact, the land currently known as USA is owned by the red Indians. My point is: It doesn't matter how many tribe we have, or the land we occupies, we can still work/walk as one! We can still work together to make Nigeria a great nation. Divided, Biafra, The Norths, The Wests are just powerless small nation with no significance in the world. But unified as Nigeria, we are powerful and strong, and with proper leadership, we can bring the world to our feet.
But definitely not on the current system. Not on a system where we worry ourselves on rubbish things like 'zoning'. Where the Northerners can't bear the thought of losing their grip on power! If any zone should be screaming for zoning, it should be South East!
And Nigeria is where it is right now, a very poor and unstable country because of the northerners. Eat my shorts, if you will!! Nigeria gained independence almost 50 years ago. Out of the 50 years, how many times/years has the power been with the North? The zone that produced the likes of Abacha and IBB! (Do I need to say more?) The zone that is synonymous to religion conflicts (like they know anything about the Q'uran or the Hadith. Nowhere in the Quran was it stated that you should kill your fellow men/women because of Him (Allah), not to talk of any other things.)
I'm sure you guys have heard of 'boko haram'! Western education is a sin? Can you imagine such profanity? But the illiteracy, that is bringing their overly barbarism out isn't a sin? I don't even want to make a comment about that. The North has caused more harm than good to Nigeria.
But yet, 'secession' isn't the answer! And deliberating about it here, more like fighting and exchanging abuses here surely isn't the way either!

macjive01:

i dont like to talk about this but i guess i should correct a misconception most Nigerian have espeacially Yoruba have about South East, seceding and being landlock.

Firstly, if Nigeria was to ever disintegrate southeast can never be a state, rather at worst case scenario ( assuming other allies and sister cultures, ibibios and effik in particular doesn't join us) Ibo's would form a state based on tribe.
This state won't be made up of only the SE states rather the SE state plus other Ibo villages and clans in Delta (9 LGA), rivers, akwaibom, crossriver, benue and kogi.

in Rivers state , ikwerre are ibos, opobo are ibos, bonny are ibos plus lots of smaller clans in rivers state alone. bonny and opobo are in international water hence the new igbo state would have facilities and avenue for deep water ports.

Also, the river Niger flows through the eastern state. All it would needs it to be dredged and widen to accommodate large shipper vessels ( the Suez canal accounts for 70% of all goods shipped to Europe from the far east and generates 30% of Egypt's GDP. the Suez is man-made, let alone when a river exists.

Finally, if there is to be a division do you think any Ibo man would forfeit colossal swat of land accede to crossriver alone, then benue and even akwa ibom.
mehn, it would be nasty, but Ibo's would definitely be fine.

what then happens to Lagos and Abuja? who keeps Lagos ? Yorubas ? i laff .
the best that could and would happen would be the Jerusalem scenario, if you know what i mean.

i don't like this topics and though not becos of my perceived loss of Ibo brothers properties all over the country( tho that counts) but mostly for those minority in the North whom are mostly Christians but been overshadowed by the Muslim Hausa's. i fit swear in kaduna for instance Hausas no pass them minority in actual real people numbers, what will happen to them ? They will be slaughtered like chicken or forced to convert to allahkuba. then it becomes a zero sum game, or rather more interesting it could become a quadrant in the algebraic equation for these guys are like southern and revered the ibo man for his courage. so the question in that contest then becomes: what if they choose to join the Easterners?


HOW DOES THIS RELATE TO THE TOPIC??

jason12345:

secondly, there can be no southern nigeria because once the north leaves igbos and yorubas would start war and further spilt up.

xoxo, :

The northern truck drivers went for strike for a week n we in Lagos really felt it, so lets face it we need the north as much as they need us.

chyz:

Is the "We" refering to lagos, the SW, or the whole of southern nigeria?

xoxo, :

we in Lagos really felt it

macjive01:

what then happens to Lagos and Abuja? who keeps Lagos ? Yorubas ? i laff .
the best that could and would happen would be the Jerusalem scenario, if you know what i mean.

ferderick:

North secede? "impossiCANT". The fools will only secede when the 9ja delta oil disappears.
Lazy n wickd tribe,i'll C how they will survive,with groundnut?how many can they export in a month and to whom.
Pls my tribemen take courage n secede n allow Biafra n Yorubas be.

Judeylive:

Clearly, only few people here really know what they are talking about. Very few! Secession is a very delicate and trivia issue, and it should be treated as such. Some people might see Ojukwu as an hero today, but that's because they weren't alive when the war was going on, or they didn't get stumped in life because their parent were no more to take care of them emotionally and educationally! Yeah, no doubt, the northerners were killing Ibos, and the foolish northern head of state didn't do anything about it, but Ojukwu didn't reason ahead, he didn't pause for a moment to think about the possibility of the failure of his actions. He even ran abroad during the war, and would probably have muttered to himself; 'Foolish people keep killing each other' while sipping a cup of hot coffee! What is the outcome of the war he caused? Political segregation of the Igbos and South East and South-South at large! Enmity! Mistrust! Exactly what is happening right now in this forum!
For the people championing that North could, and w

macjive01 link=topic=516799.msg6828016#msg6828016 date=1285562731:

i dont like to talk about this but i guess i should correct a misconception most Nigerian have espeacially Yoruba have about South East, seceding and being landlock.

Firstly, if Nigeria was to ever disintegrate southeast can never be a state, rather at worst case scenario ( assuming other allies and sister cultures, ibibios and effik in particular doesn't join us) Ibo's would form a state based on tribe.
This state won't be made up of only the SE states rather the SE state plus other Ibo villages and clans in Delta (9 LGA), rivers, akwaibom, crossriver, benue and kogi.

in Rivers state , ikwerre are ibos, opobo are ibos, bonny are ibos plus lots of smaller clans in rivers state alone. bonny and opobo are in international water hence the new igbo state would have facilities and avenue for deep water ports.

Also, the river Niger flows through the eastern state. All it would needs it to be dredged and widen to accommodate large shipper vessels ( the Suez canal accounts for 70% of all goods shipped to Europe from the far east and generates 30% of Egypt's GDP. the Suez is man-made, let alone when a river exists.

Finally, if there is to be a division do you think any Ibo man would forfeit colossal swat of land accede to crossriver alone, then benue and even akwa ibom.
mehn, it would be nasty, but Ibo's would definitely be fine.

what then happens to Lagos and Abuja? who keeps Lagos ? Yorubas ? i laff .
the best that could and would happen would be the Jerusalem scenario, if you know what i mean.

i don't like this topics and though not becos of my perceived loss of Ibo brothers properties all over the country( tho that counts) but mostly for those minority in the North whom are mostly Christians but been overshadowed by the Muslim Hausa's. i fit swear in kaduna for instance Hausas no pass them minority in actual real people numbers, what will happen to them ? They will be slaughtered like chicken or forced to convert to allahkuba. then it becomes a zero sum game, or rather more interesting it could become a quadrant in the algebraic equation for these guys are like southern and revered the ibo man for his courage. so the question in that contest then becomes: what if they choose to join the Easterners?

Insightful and very spot on!
But definitely not on the current system. Not on a system where we worry ourselves on rubbish things like 'zoning'. Where the Northerners can't bear the thought of losing their grip on power! If any zone should be screaming for zoning, it should be South East!
And Nigeria is where it is right now, a very poor and unstable country because of the northerners. Eat my shorts, if you will!! Nigeria gained independence almost 50 years ago. Out of the 50 years, how many times/years has the power been with the North? The zone that produced the likes of Abacha and IBB! (Do I need to say more?) The zone that is synonymous to religion conflicts (like they know anything about the Q'uran or the Hadith. Nowhere in the Quran was it stated that you should kill your fellow men/women because of Him (Allah), not to talk of any other things.)
I'm sure you guys have heard of 'boko haram'! Western education is a sin? Can you imagine such profanity? But the illiteracy, that is bringing their overly barbarism out isn't a sin? I don't even want to make a comment about that. The North has caused more harm than good to Nigeria.
But yet, 'secession' isn't the answer! And deliberating about it here, more like fighting and exchanging abuses here surely isn't the way either!