odumchi:

No community has a N5m bride price. Read that link that I posted above for the answers to all of your questions.

ACM10:

Ekwy where have u been to? I miss u. Welcome back.

Ekwy Omalicha:

yes they love you in your dreams.....

bittyend:

Stop fronting, you know you've got a crush on ya boy...

When am I going to get an invite to your house, omalicha nma?

Ekwy Omalicha:

do you ve ten million for TW?

Kobojunkie:

Are you sure you are responding to the right person? I am actually against the real prices placed on HUMAN BEINGS. I would prefer a symbolic price rather than a REAL PRICE as that is what all this remains.

After hearing three or four nimrods describe their wives as properties, you get the sense that something is wrong when people pay a monetary price for another human being.

Kobojunkie:

I endorse this !

bittyend:

I'm English, mate lol... And all the girls are English/Igbo- and they're more English, than Igbo. So, I guess I don't need to pay a dime lol.... But the money isn't the problem, I just don't see why I've to pay someone ten million naira - to marry a girl that's 'in love' with me...

Ekwy Omalicha:

Unfortunately am Igbo/Igbo no ten million bride price, no marriage ….Deal or no Deal?

bittyend:

I'm not married because a village Chief said so, huh? At end of the day, there's nothing they can do - as long as I don't go to Nigeria... Don't get it twisted, I love African culture(s) - but some aspects of our culture(s) don't belong in the 21st century..

Paying for a women = prostitution/pimping..

Let me put it this way, if I pay a woman to get married to me - that means she's automatically my SLAVE, because I own her... However, I don't want a slave as a wife, I want a best friend, a helper, and someone who has the same stake as I do in the marriage...

Saying I'm not 'married' because I didn't pay the bride price; is like a pastor telling me that without paying tithe(s), I'm stealing from God... Fvck that bs, does that God come down from heaven to collect tithes from churches? Hell NO!!!

These elders need to allow it, and let people get married, period.

Solozzo:

Yes you said it all and so boldly.

People should demonstrate self determination and emancipate themselves from mental slavery. ibo men be brave. Marry your beloved ibo girl in churches outside iboland, and shun these elders. Ibo girls be brave. Follow the man you love to an altar, get govt marriage certificates live your life with the man you love, and damn these slave dealers called the ummunna. Be brave!!!

sapien: It's about time!There's even one in my street,her husband batters her mercilessly.Each time she went home after every battering,her parents sent her back with immediate alacrity.Reason she gave was because of the heavy bride price that had been collected from her husband.She can't just go back!I seriously wish the man will not kill her one of these days.Imagine a man beating his wife with iron rod and sending her out late at night,after three kids?

bittyend:

NO DEAL! - let the game continue.

Theblessed: Tell them that I said, they should also fix the family INHERITANCES for all children born in a marriage, in Igbo land - MALE and FEMALE, ok!

Because cultural injustices perpetrated on Igbo daughters, are too much and it's got to stop - it is evil!

Igbo daughters are dis-inherited from their own fathers wealth e.g land, properties, Ngwu i.e. Palm trees, Ngwo i.e. Tombo trees, kola trees from the moment they married etc, why?

Are we not our father daughters just like our brothers are his sons? And why, should marriage deprive us of our 'Birth rights' when the sons themselves keep everything, and will go and bring a woman from another family to take over our inheritance, in the name of being married into the family?

It is unfair!

I need my own inheritance to take to my husbands place to look after my children, just as my brothers are doing with theirs and I ask, what's wrong with that?

And for those who would argue, what would a woman do with land, properties, Palm, Tombo and Kola trees respectively?

I say, sell them all to the highest bidder and take the money to establish yourself at your husbands for the benefit of your children and their own wives should do the same and bring their own inheritances to their husbands house to establish themselves for their children - that is fair!

For most Igbo daughters, the most painful thing is that, should your mother/father become ill, the brothers will abandon the responsibility on their sisters who are married away - yes, they don't want the responsibility but they want the rights.

Look, Rights and Responsibility goes hand in hand - you can't have one without the other.

Why call the sisters? Why can your wives whom our inheritances had been give to, care for our parents and leave us alone, to care for our parent in-laws where we are married to, why not?

It is fair that way!

Even some girls from well-to-do families, may fell in love with a poor man and married him and, that's the end of her inheritance. She will then begin a life of struggle, poverty and suffering with her children at her matrimonial home where as her brothers and their wives and children are all, swimming in luxury in her own father's house - how could that be right?

Now, you put up the above topic for discussion here please, go tell them to look into all these unfair ancient and obsolete laws and do something with them, in this 21st Century.

Igbo daughters, are not happy about these issues and are seriously discussing about them in their respective locations via all communication technologies - one day, they will hear from us, about these injustices - tell them!

odumchi:

"um . . . wrong. Tradition is OPTIONAL and implemented whenever we choose to"

That's what you think; it's pure Western ideology. Not everyone thinks like this.

As for those Igbo women, that's exactly why they're living abroad and not in their communities. Such a thing is considered an abomination. However, that's what happens when the West teaches people that European wedding ceremonies are superior to African ones.

Oh well. Hooray for "liberated thinking".

bashr8: stop this your mischief , what do you mean by prices placed on human beings, please go somewhere else and marry if have a problem with igbo traditional marriage, tell me which part of nigeria , africa or the world where bride prices are not paid.? you like arguing a lot on simple matters. bride price is symbolic every where including igboland and some communities return it after you have paid it ,stop this your mischief. and yes a wife is the husbands property just as husbands are their wives property , do have a problem with that?
as for abuse there are authorities, families,village elders, police even friends etc that are there to address abuse in marriages.

Theblessed: Tell them that I said, they should also fix the family INHERITANCES for all children born in a marriage, in Igbo land - MALE and FEMALE, ok!

Because cultural injustices perpetrated on Igbo daughters, are too much and it's got to stop - it is evil!

Igbo daughters are dis-inherited from their own fathers wealth e.g land, properties, Ngwu i.e. Palm trees, Ngwo i.e. Tombo trees, kola trees from the moment they married etc, why?

Are we not our father daughters just like our brothers are his sons? And why, should marriage deprive us of our 'Birth rights' when the sons themselves keep everything, and will go and bring a woman from another family to take over our inheritance, in the name of being married into the family?

It is unfair!

byrron:



WHAT D 4UCK R U SAYING? IM IGBO AND A PROUD ONE FOR THAT MATTER. U CAN TALK ABT UR VILLA/HOMETOWN AND NOT ABOUT THE ENTIRE IGBOS. BRIDE PRICE FROM MY SIDE OF ABIA STATE IS VERY INFINITESIMAL MY DEAR.

THIS BRIDE PRICE ISSUE IS VERY RELATIVE AND DOES NOT APPLY IN ALL EASTERN STATES AND HOME TOWNS. THE STATE IN QUESTION IS IMO STATE AND NOT EVERY STATE.

I HAVE A FRIEND FROM AKWA IBON STATE THAT MARRIED A LADY FROM OBINZE IN IMO STATE 3MONTHS AGO AND THE BRIDES FATHER TOLD ALL IN ATTENDANCE DURING THEIR TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE THAT HE COLLECTED JUST 4K AS THE DAUGHTERS BRIDE PRICE JUST TO LET MY FRIEND KNOW THAT HE IS NOT SELLING HIS DAUGHTER RATHER HE WANTS MY FRIEND TO TAKE CARE OF HIS DAUGHTER JUST THE WAY HE HAS DONE.

THIS BRIDE PRICE ISSUE VARIES

WERE DID U GET THIS UR ABOMINATION THEORY FROM?

PLS, SPEAK FOR UR COMMUNITY MY DEAR

Kobojunkie:

N100,000 bride price in Nigeria is symbolic? Really? So, all those men who I have heard claim they OWN their wives or paid a lot for them are talking SYMBOLICALLY too? Nevermind . . . I should really learn to stop expecting so much from some of y'all on here.

Theblessed: [b]Tell them that I said, they should also fix the family INHERITANCES for all children born in a marriage, in Igbo land - MALE and FEMALE, ok!

Because cultural injustices perpetrated on Igbo daughters, are too much and it's got to stop - it is evil!

Igbo daughters are dis-inherited from their own fathers wealth e.g land, properties, Ngwu i.e. Palm trees, Ngwo i.e. Tombo trees, kola trees from the moment they married etc, why?

Are we not our father daughters just like our brothers are his sons?

And why, should marriage deprive us of our 'Birth rights' when the sons themselves keep everything they inherited, and will go and bring a woman from another family to take over our inheritances, in the name of being married into the family?

It is unfair that we keep our inheritance - married or not!

I need my own inheritance to take to my husbands place to look after my children, just as my brothers are doing with theirs and I ask, what is wrong with that?

If its good for the goose, it is also good for the gander!

And for those who would argue, what would a woman do with land, properties, Palm, Tombo and Kola trees respectively?

I say, sell them all to the highest bidder and take the money to establish yourself at your husbands house, for the benefit of your children.

Their wives should also, do the same and bring their own inheritances to their husbands house to establish themselves for their children - that is fair!

For most Igbo daughters, the most painful thing is that, should your mother/father become ill, the brothers will abandon the responsibility on their sisters who are married away - yes, they don't want the responsibility but they want the rights.

Look, Rights and Responsibility goes hand in hand - you can't have one without the other.

Why call the sisters? Why can your wives whom our inheritances had been give to, care for our parents and leave us alone, to care for our parent in-laws where we are married to, why not?

It is fair that way!

Even some girls from well-to-do families, may fell in love with a poor man and married him and, that's the end of her inheritance. She will then begin a life of struggle, poverty and suffering with her children at her matrimonial home where as her brothers and their wives and children are all, swimming in luxury in her own father's house - how could that be right?

Now, you put up the above topic for discussion here please, go tell them to look into all these unfair ancient and obsolete laws and do something with them, in this 21st Century.

Igbo daughters, are not happy about these issues and are seriously discussing about them in their respective locations via all communication technologies - one day, they will hear from us, about these injustices - tell them!
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bashr8: your father decides who gets what, it has nothing to do with culture or elders. i know lots of igbo women that inherited a lot from their father, besides theres an igbo tradition called idunno , when you marry your family gives you properties, share of inheritance etc depending on how wealthy they are, my sisters got plots of land, houses, cars etc and they are direct heirs to my mums properties most of which she inherited from her mother and father and some she earned during within her marriage with my dad so stop this your cries and talk to your father about it.

no igbo man watches his daughter suffer in her marriage unless he is poor or a saddist or they warned you not to marry the man and you disobeyed them and went ahead.

cyril83: payin 1k less for a responsible cheap sis is far beta than payin 1m for a dog who will later be sent packing,come to say it all,igbo guyz of nowadayz even prefer marryin outside their tribe.....smh

bashr8: if a community decides their bride price is 100k so what , in my villa it is 5 thousand naira while the neighbouring villa is 600 naira , whatever the amount is it is symbolic cus most times we return it to the inlaws. like i said stop crying or commenting on something you know nothing about. bride price have never stopped any man , rich or oor from marrying an imo lady ,there are both rich ,middle class and poor people in imo and they are all getting married.

bashr8: your father decides who gets what, it has nothing to do with culture or elders. i know lots of igbo women that inherited a lot from their father, besides theres an igbo tradition called idunno , when you marry your family gives you properties, share of inheritance etc depending on how wealthy they are, my sisters got plots of land, houses, cars etc and they are direct heirs to my mums properties most of which she inherited from her mother and father and some she earned during within her marriage with my dad so stop this your cries and talk to your father about it.

no igbo man watches his daughter suffer in her marriage unless he is poor or a saddist or they warned you not to marry the man and you disobeyed them and went ahead.

odumchi:

I've realized that this whole argument is just based on your own personal convictions. It's people that have an inferiority complex that say such things.

I don't know why indigenous African ceremonies are now considered "optional" (to some) but European ones are a must.

Chai, bekee emeela anyi ihe. Europeans have done Africa dirty.

You're right. I have built a sacred place in my mind for my culture/tradition because it is what defines me.