Aloy_Emeka:

God is not obliged to anybody including you and He doesn't give receipts.

dayokanu:

Probably IBB, Abacha, OBJ, Ibori, Odili too sent their money to God.

Didnt I see a picture of Ibori and Adeboye sometime ago? These things are begining to make sense

bawomolo:

sure Angel Gabriel must be running an intergalactic money laundering ring.

dayokanu:

Whats the difference?

Most of them are friends with Daddy GO or is it GoDaddy?

Aloy_Emeka:

They are friends because he cannot make enemies due to his christian faith. They are not cool like that tho and if he doesn't befriend them, how will he draw them to Christ?

dayokanu:

Akingbola, Obasanjo, Ibru are big time pals with Adeboye, Doesnt Adeboye go for regular morning prayers with OBJ in Aso Rock, Sevral times, OBJ has been on the pulpit ministering in Adeboyes church.

Most of them are frequent at the "breakfast with GO" where Adeboyes God drinks half of the tea

debosky:

Firstly, there can be no 'refunds' unless the exact figures they gave were recorded.

Secondly, you would need to prove that the monies the individuals contributed to RCCG was from looted funds, not from their incomes.

It is not the duty of RCCG to do forensic accounting and investigations - if the EFCC or another investigative body can establish that the monies contributed to RCCG was indeed from dishonest sources, then I'm sure the church will be willing to refund the amount if instructed to do so.

Aloy_Emeka:

By their fruits we shall know them. Are you saying that Akingbola did not earn any honest penny in his career as a superb banker?. The honest ones he sent to God and it is not in your place to ask questions. The ways of God are different from the ways of man.

chuqudy:

Yoruba pastors.

debosky:

Firstly, there can be no 'refunds' unless the exact figures they gave were recorded.

Secondly, you would need to prove that the monies the individuals contributed to RCCG was from looted funds, not from their incomes.

It is not the duty of RCCG to do forensic accounting and investigations - if the EFCC or another investigative body can establish that the monies contributed to RCCG was indeed from dishonest sources, then I'm sure the church will be willing to refund the amount if instructed to do so.

dayokanu:

So shouldnt the church as an upright organisation come out and state how much was made from Akingbola and refund it? Most of the money he donated would be through cheques which can be traced and audited, I assume no one can drop 1m Naira cash into the offering bag.

When Fraudsters are caught and their property confiscated do authorities bother to separate the assets they acquired legally and the ones they acquired illegally? In Most cases all their assets are confiscated.

When Abachas loots was taken by Govt from Swiss banks, Did they ask which part of it was his rightful income as a Military man of over 30yrs and CinC?

Do the church needs to be instructed, taken to court and hounded by Police before they do what is morally right?

its like saying you can steal and its not your responsibility to avoid shady acts since its the job of law enforcement to catch offenders. Where lies your honour and morals as an individual, company or church.

JUO:

are u now God to judge?

Have the property firms he bought from come out to say how much he spent on homes and refunded? Have the petrol stations come out to detail how much he spent and refunded? Have the airlines declared how much he spent on plane tickets?

More pertinently, have his employers stated how much he earned legitimately to be able to discern whether anything he gave to RCCG was above/below what could be legally avoided?

Whether cheques can be traced or not, the church's duty is not to release information on individual members for the fun of it. Let a court convict Akingbola, or demand the evidence from RCCG and it can then be provided. Anything beyond that is chasing shadows.

Quite true - when did giving to RCCG become an asset?
When did RCCG become a bank where money was kept by Akingbola?

You are being presumptive - there is NO EVIDENCE that any giving to RCCG was out of looted funds. If any such evidence exists, it is the duty of the investigative agencies to provide it. The church is not in the business of verification of income - that is the government and tax agencies' job.

Honour lies in returning any identified illegal gain - this must come at the behest of constituted authority. The church is not established to investigate members for financial impropriety in the financial services industry - the regulators and the police are supposed to do that.

debosky:

Have the property firms he bought from come out to say how much he spent on homes and refunded? Have the petrol stations come out to detail how much he spent and refunded? Have the airlines declared how much he spent on plane tickets?  ?

Tee_Jay:

monies paid to RCCG was voluntary, it was never a means to launder money so even if it is proven the man looted public funds RCCG is not obliged to refund such funds.
The reality os it all is that if the man mingled legit money with stolen ones then how on earth is the church going to separate the two? on the other hand

dayokanu:

The money Sani Abacha put in Mohammed Abachas custody too were done voluntarily, So why was Mohammed Abacha hounded to return the money.

The reality was that Abacha, Ibori, Bode george, Alams all probably mingled legit money wih stolen ones

debosky:

Have the property firms he bought from come out to say how much he spent on homes and refunded? Have the petrol stations come out to detail how much he spent and refunded? Have the airlines declared how much he spent on plane tickets?  

More pertinently, have his employers stated how much he earned legitimately to be able to discern whether anything he gave to RCCG was above/below what could be legally avoided?

Whether cheques can be traced or not, the church's duty is not to release information on individual members for the fun of it. Let a court convict Akingbola, or demand the evidence from RCCG and it can then be provided. Anything beyond that is chasing shadows.

Quite true - when did giving to RCCG become an asset?  

When did RCCG become a bank where money was kept by Akingbola?  

You are being presumptive - there is NO EVIDENCE that any giving to RCCG was out of looted funds. If any such evidence exists, it is the duty of the investigative agencies to provide it. The church is not in the business of verification of income - that is the government and tax agencies' job.

Honour lies in returning any identified illegal gain - this must come at the behest of constituted authority. The church is not established to investigate members for financial impropriety in the financial services industry - the regulators and the police are supposed to do that.

How is the church supposed to verify the income from each and every one of it's members?